Updated: Toyota GT86 - facts from Japan (Handmade and only 1000 units/yr - DEBUNKED)

[Dimman]

I'm thinking the hand-made-ness and limited production numbers is due to ongoing supply issues since the earthquake/tsunami.

Subaru had to postpone the Impreza here, I believe.

The hand-made limited numbers may just be a stop gap, to not piss us all off with a delay, since the factories are already having trouble with the volume (money making) models.

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by mhj555

It could be that the "hi-spec" model is limited to 1000/yr, or even a special edition that has a special interior or badging.

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[Syldrin]

Dimman that is a brilliant thought. i wish i could have come up with it first so people would think i'm brilliant like you. but sadly i didn't so now i will never be brillaint *over dramatic crying*

seriously though i do hope you are right about that.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by syldrin

i'm a toyota fan boy for sure i just hope that there factors involved with production.

and you're probably right about that tranz.

either way i'm super excited about this car i just hope i can still afford it. hand mande sounds pricey.

i wonder if only toyota is hand making it and if that means that subaru isnt and would scion possibly be pulling their cars from subaru?

Subaru is building all of them. Toyota isn't hand making, hand assembling, or turning a bolt on any GT86 besides their pre production/test cars.

If the Toyota version ends up being limited and the Subaru doesn't then it's a contract issue between Toyota and Subaru, nothing else.

[Aki]

Not enough info to draw any useful conclusions. 1,000/yr in Japan doesn't mean it's 1,000/yr for stateside.

Gotta remember the sports coupe market is all but dead in Japan. Hence over there it'd be a lot more of a niche car there. Here coupes still have a lot of staying power. So production could be a lot greater here. If it's anything less than 10,000 units a year here then I think there's going to be quite a bit of supply storage.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by Aki

Not enough info to draw any useful conclusions. 1,000/yr in Japan doesn't mean it's 1,000/yr for stateside.

Gotta remember the sports coupe market is all but dead in Japan. Hence over there it'd be a lot more of a niche car there. Here coupes still have a lot of staying power. So production could be a lot greater here. If it's anything less than 10,000 units a year here then I think there's going to be quite a bit of supply storage.

From the beginning, I think 1000 units/year in Japan only, not Europe. EUDM and USDM might get more unit/year than Japan.

[bc_106]

No offense but it doesn't make sense that they have a car they want tuner companies to invest in but have a limited production on the number of cars. How can any company justify investment into the 86 if the market size is a MAX of 1000 per year??

[Syldrin]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Subaru is building all of them. Toyota isn't hand making, hand assembling, or turning a bolt on any GT86 besides their pre production/test cars.

If the Toyota version ends up being limited and the Subaru doesn't then it's a contract issue between Toyota and Subaru, nothing else.

dave can you shoot me a PM of what toyota actualy has done with this car i keep making up what they did in my head and then being dissapointed.

[mkivalex]

There is NO way they will only make 1000 of these a year, with all the advertising,hype, leaks, on an affordable car to be 1000 units? Noway! I could see it if it was the LFA since most people cant afford it.

They would also not have so many varients, Different Aero kits, Lighting, seating, It just doesnt make sense for a car of this class to be limited production with the way it is being marketed.

I mean look at how many 86's were at the press release, If they were doing a limited production car I highly doubt they would have that many 86's floating around for it.

Maybe for an initial launch only 1000 cars, but It doesnt make sense from a business point of view to make 1000 a year.

[s2upid]

Originally Posted by RRnold

Thanks Leeky and your trip seems well worth it!

If 1000 is indeed true, it looks like we are now down to 992 units!

fuck black looks sexy

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by syldrin

dave can you shoot me a PM of what toyota actualy has done with this car i keep making up what they did in my head and then being dissapointed.

If Toyota is limited, so will Scion and Subaru. I still say if it is a 1000, then it's going to be 1000 per Toyota, Scion and Subaru.

But you never know, the 1000 could be just for Japan....

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by s2upid

fuck black looks sexy

Hell to the yeah! And so does the dark grey...

[AIRMAX]

Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

1000 units / year would significantly compromise the aftermarket for these cars. With such an emphasis of this car being a blank canvas, I really don't think they will limit it that much.

From one side, it's cool.. it will never be a civic for example... but at the same time, it would kill everything that the car is made for, and limit the audience that it was made for as well. It will also never pay for itself.

yeah it simply doesnt make sense

With that said...
Toyota "employees" could be talking about for the 2012 year only.

Usually with a "niche" market such as sports coupe, especially in Toyota's case and in combination that it is sharing assembly line with Subaru version.... Production can possibly be limited (per model) to 1000.


It could also mean, they are testing the market and have a "change" already in place that is ready to be implemented within 12 months of release, hence they are limiting it to low supplies at the moment..... sounds like hog wash I know but I'm trying to justify why 1000 units PER YEAR.... thats just twice the amount of LFAs which cost 20 times more and has materials that takes 4-5 times longer to manufacture (carbon fiber chassis etc).

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by s2upid

fuck black looks sexy

Originally Posted by tripjammer

Hell to the yeah! And so does the dark grey...

I'm feeling all of those colors except the orange. I've owned 2 black cars before and even though black looks so nice when fully polished, it's a pain to keep clean.

I'll never buy a black car...I'm all about that white!