Unable to loosen crank pulley, even with 6 foot break bar! - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tbertran · 05-11-2014, 05:12 PM

I'm sure I'm exposing myself to some spirited banter but I'm at my wit's ends...
I want to replace the OEM crank pulley and have carefully studied the DIYs I found, overall it should be a very simple operation. But...

Car's in 6th gear, I have my 24" break bar and, since that wasn't enough, a 6" piece of heavy galvanized aluminum who probably weighs around 10-12 pounds. I have tried numerous times to give it a good tug like all DIYs say but it's not loosening up.
Instead the crank is slowly turning with my tugs. It is definitely resisting (as opposed to, say, having the car in neutral) but it feels like working against a very strong rubber band.

What am I missing?

PS: I'm a healthy 6"2, 185 pounder who should, theoretically, be able to do this.

Sportsguy83 · 05-11-2014, 05:13 PM

pull the E-brake harder. Your torque is going towards rocking the car back and forth. Completely limiting tire movement will break it. I had similar issues...

Reaper · 05-11-2014, 05:15 PM

use a much much shorter bar and smack it with a hammer. different type of force. Also make sure you're going the right way.

N1rve · 05-11-2014, 05:16 PM

Put your weight into it!

pche · 05-11-2014, 05:21 PM

Lefty loosey

tbertran · 05-11-2014, 05:27 PM

I'm doubting everything I'm doing right now but not the direction...

Been hammering at it like one of you suggested, either I'm a wuss or my hammer is too light (it's a rhetorical question, fellas...)

Gonna try and find something to block the wheels to limit movement.

Reaper · 05-11-2014, 05:31 PM

seriously, 18 inch breaker bar plus 22 pound sledge should do it. The drivetrain wont be able to respond fast enough to absorb the impact and it should break free.

ATL BRZ · 05-11-2014, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tbertran

What am I missing?

The right tools!

I had this same issue and couldn't break it loose with the ebrake maxed out to the point where the boot separated from the trim. The clutch was continuing to slip with 6th gear fully engaged, no matter how blunt I was with my force on the breaker bar.

I gave up, drank a beer and ordered a Grimmspeed pulley tool and once it arrived I was able to easily break the crank bolt loose using two breaker bars and an extra pair of hands.

http://www.grimmspeed.com/crank-pull...l-tool-subaru/

Great tool, highly recommend it.

tbertran · 05-11-2014, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

I gave up, drank a beer

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Will look into the tool. Thanks.

stevesnj · 05-11-2014, 08:44 PM

Get a 3/4 inch breaker bar and rest it against somewhere where it won't move and give the starter a quick turn. Should come loose easily.

connorlug · 05-11-2014, 08:46 PM

yup lay the breaker bar against the pavement where it wont smack into anything else and blip the starter. problem solved

Calum · 05-11-2014, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by connorlug

yup lay the breaker bar against the pavement where it wont smack into anything else and blip the starter. problem solved

Don't do this.

briantran123 · 05-11-2014, 08:59 PM

i used a small breaker bar and slapped a lacrosse stick on it. its a bitch, had to give it a few tries. itll pop eventually, i was doubtful too. im 5'5 and 140lbs, it should come off haha

i stood on the left side (facing the car) and just pulled. if it didnt go the first time, id release it a little then just yank the fuck out of it. youll know when it pops.

when i did it, the crank was going with me too. i even moved the whole engine. youre doing it right from my view. its just being a bitch

Calum · 05-11-2014, 09:02 PM

Are you just turning the disk against the clutch springs? When I was putting mine on I had to pull against the springs until they binded and then I was able to break it loose.

05-11-2014, 05:12 PM	#1
tbertran Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ (6027xx) Premium Manual Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 280 Thanks: 83 Thanked 171 Times in 85 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Unable to loosen crank pulley, even with 6 foot break bar! I'm sure I'm exposing myself to some spirited banter but I'm at my wit's ends... I want to replace the OEM crank pulley and have carefully studied the DIYs I found, overall it should be a very simple operation. But... Car's in 6th gear, I have my 24" break bar and, since that wasn't enough, a 6" piece of heavy galvanized aluminum who probably weighs around 10-12 pounds. I have tried numerous times to give it a good tug like all DIYs say but it's not loosening up. Instead the crank is slowly turning with my tugs. It is definitely resisting (as opposed to, say, having the car in neutral) but it feels like working against a very strong rubber band. What am I missing? PS: I'm a healthy 6"2, 185 pounder who should, theoretically, be able to do this. __________________ FT86SpeedFactory catted UEL Header / GReddy EVO3 Catback / Cosworth Drop-in air filter / Shifteck short throw shifter / Kartboy pulley / Rear bumper diffuser / Perrin shorty antenna / Raceseng Slammer knob / Carsmo armrest / Clear side markers / 10" CustomSubEnclosure\|Rockford R500X1D\|Rockford P3D4-10 / Perrin Inlet Hose / GrimmSpeed front strut bar / Valentine V1 with BlendMount / All LED Inside

05-11-2014, 05:15 PM	#3
Reaper in orbe terrum non visi Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: violent Location: Mountains Posts: 1,747 Thanks: 279 Thanked 762 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 62 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	use a much much shorter bar and smack it with a hammer. different type of force. Also make sure you're going the right way. __________________ I have E85 where there isn't E85, that's my secret. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=reaper+build

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05-11-2014, 05:27 PM	#6
tbertran Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ (6027xx) Premium Manual Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 280 Thanks: 83 Thanked 171 Times in 85 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm doubting everything I'm doing right now but not the direction... Been hammering at it like one of you suggested, either I'm a wuss or my hammer is too light (it's a rhetorical question, fellas...) Gonna try and find something to block the wheels to limit movement. __________________ FT86SpeedFactory catted UEL Header / GReddy EVO3 Catback / Cosworth Drop-in air filter / Shifteck short throw shifter / Kartboy pulley / Rear bumper diffuser / Perrin shorty antenna / Raceseng Slammer knob / Carsmo armrest / Clear side markers / 10" CustomSubEnclosure\|Rockford R500X1D\|Rockford P3D4-10 / Perrin Inlet Hose / GrimmSpeed front strut bar / Valentine V1 with BlendMount / All LED Inside

05-11-2014, 05:31 PM	#7
Reaper in orbe terrum non visi Join Date: Jan 2014 Drives: violent Location: Mountains Posts: 1,747 Thanks: 279 Thanked 762 Times in 446 Posts Mentioned: 62 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	seriously, 18 inch breaker bar plus 22 pound sledge should do it. The drivetrain wont be able to respond fast enough to absorb the impact and it should break free. __________________ I have E85 where there isn't E85, that's my secret. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...t=reaper+build

05-11-2014, 05:21 PM	#5
pche Guy on internet Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Slowly Location: PA Posts: 582 Thanks: 1,407 Thanked 492 Times in 233 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Lefty loosey

05-11-2014, 08:44 PM	#10
stevesnj Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2016 FR-S Oceanic Blue Location: Southern NJ Posts: 2,958 Thanks: 2,158 Thanked 1,601 Times in 923 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	Get a 3/4 inch breaker bar and rest it against somewhere where it won't move and give the starter a quick turn. Should come loose easily.

05-11-2014, 08:46 PM	#11
connorlug Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: #1553 10 Series FRS Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 85 Thanks: 11 Thanked 39 Times in 23 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	yup lay the breaker bar against the pavement where it wont smack into anything else and blip the starter. problem solved

05-11-2014, 08:59 PM	#13
briantran123 Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Drives: fire storm frs 6mt Location: parker Posts: 58 Thanks: 0 Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	i used a small breaker bar and slapped a lacrosse stick on it. its a bitch, had to give it a few tries. itll pop eventually, i was doubtful too. im 5'5 and 140lbs, it should come off haha i stood on the left side (facing the car) and just pulled. if it didnt go the first time, id release it a little then just yank the fuck out of it. youll know when it pops. when i did it, the crank was going with me too. i even moved the whole engine. youre doing it right from my view. its just being a bitch

05-11-2014, 09:02 PM	#14
Calum That Guy Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2013 asphalt FRS MT Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia Posts: 4,865 Thanks: 5,058 Thanked 2,867 Times in 1,499 Posts Mentioned: 82 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Are you just turning the disk against the clutch springs? When I was putting mine on I had to pull against the springs until they binded and then I was able to break it loose.

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