Any official 0-60 times between auto and manual? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

SUB-FT86 · 04-29-2012, 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Lange

Official 0-60 is 7.3 for 6MT and 8.0 for 6AT.
Official 1/4mi is 15.6 for 6MT and 16.1 6AT.

Jeff

Where did you get the auto 0-60?

Jeff Lange · 04-29-2012, 08:51 PM

The new car features book.

Jeff

Steve · 04-29-2012, 10:51 PM

having to go into 3rd to hit 60 kills the number on paper

how to not be shunned by oblivious fast and the furious enthusiasts? :O

at least the car looks fast

better yet, imagine a world where everything little thing wasn't compared, nit picked and measured in numbers. but instead decisions were based on feel, whoa mind blown

thanks to fairly lightweight this car will feel faster than these numbers suggest, it will feel faster than bigger cars that go faster

even better yet, you can take the corner faster, and taking corners fast is even more fun than going in a straight line fast

whoa mind blown more

Quentin · 04-29-2012, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

having to go into 3rd to hit 60 kills the number on paper

how to not be shunned by oblivious fast and the furious enthusiasts? :O

at least the car looks fast

better yet, imagine a world where everything little thing wasn't compared, nit picked and measured in numbers. but instead decisions were based on feel, whoa mind blown

thanks to fairly lightweight this car will feel faster than these numbers suggest, it will feel faster than bigger cars that go faster

even better yet, you can take the corner faster, and taking corners fast is even more fun than going in a straight line fast

whoa mind blown more

Could be a blessing in disguise. It might salvage our insurance rates.

naticedog04 · 04-30-2012, 04:43 AM

Ive been wanting to say this for a while and have yet to hear anyone mention it... When driving an automatic i dont care what shoes/sandals/barefoot im using cause it all feels the same... Boring/non-engaging
On the opposite side, change up the shoes while driving a manual and the feel changes... This is the number one reason i hate dressing up and wearing dress shoes cause it changes the feel of my clutch and gas pedal to a point of less feel... I love driving in my "chucks" cause it promotes the best feel between pedal and foot
For all u automatic drivers out there, u'll never experience that cause its all the same when stepping on the gas and brake pedal with the right foot... U have no idea how ur left foot and right foot push the pedals differently... The clutch pedal is always stiiffer than the brake and gas pedal... U'll be able to tell when driving a manual with different shoes, or by pushing the clutch pedal with ur right foot at a dead stop. (i dont recomend doing this while actual driving)
Anyways, driving an automatic takes away the feel of the car, not by inches but miles(pun intended)

lpnnlp · 04-30-2012, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by naticedog04

Ive been wanting to say this for a while and have yet to hear anyone mention it... When driving an automatic i dont care what shoes/sandals/barefoot im using cause it all feels the same... Boring/non-engaging
On the opposite side, change up the shoes while driving a manual and the feel changes... This is the number one reason i hate dressing up and wearing dress shoes cause it changes the feel of my clutch and gas pedal to a point of less feel... I love driving in my "chucks" cause it promotes the best feel between pedal and foot
For all u automatic drivers out there, u'll never experience that cause its all the same when stepping on the gas and brake pedal with the right foot... U have no idea how ur left foot and right foot push the pedals differently... The clutch pedal is always stiiffer than the brake and gas pedal... U'll be able to tell when driving a manual with different shoes, or by pushing the clutch pedal with ur right foot at a dead stop. (i dont recomend doing this while actual driving)
Anyways, driving an automatic takes away the feel of the car, not by inches but miles(pun intended)

I was about to gift you my Porsche with PDK, but now that you have said this...

LeftFootBrake · 04-30-2012, 05:36 AM

Luckily, I'm here to happily take his place.

Laika · 04-30-2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by LeftFootBrake

Luckily, I'm here to happily take his place.

And with the most possible ironic username for the situation too

Sport-Tech · 04-30-2012, 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

thanks to fairly lightweight this car will feel faster than these numbers suggest, it will feel faster than bigger cars that go faster

The main reason this car will feel faster is due to the low driving position - look at onboard driving videos with different camera mounts to see this - low-mounted bumper cams make a car feel much faster. Light weight will contribute a bit primarily due to the vehicle's reduced isolation from NVH, which can add to the subjective sensation of speed.

Sleeperz · 04-30-2012, 10:37 AM

The Automatic is better on gas because it has a double overdrive 0.713 0.582 4th-1.000 while the 6MT is a single overdrive 0.767/ 5th-1.000.

The 6MT is faster because its 1/2 gearing is slightly higher.

So the MT is for the enthusiast/track while the AT is more for the daily driver who wants better gas mileage.
Since the transmission gearing is very different a MT car is very different speed wise from the AT car.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5280

Quote:

Originally Posted by evicfinite

so far i have not seen any real 0-60 times between the auto and manual of the FR-S or the BRZ, does anyone know a good source that did this testing?

this might sway me to decide what i would choose.

pros and cons.

automatic:
better on gas
easier in traffic
could use the free hand to hold a girls hand
could eat a hamburger

Manual:
like driving a car
what enthusiast should get
lighter
cheaper

anyways let me know if there were posted times for 0-60 for auto and manual.

carbonBLUE · 04-30-2012, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

More like 7+ off that video. 60mph requires 3rd gear and it's ~6.5s to the top of 2nd gear. Speedo lies.

ohh yeah cause cars that do 0-60 in 7 seconds pull 14.3 quarter mile runs...

dsgerbc · 04-30-2012, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbonBLUE

ohh yeah cause cars that do 0-60 in 7 seconds pull 14.3 quarter mile runs...

7+ seconds from a dead stop, not from 2-3mph. Don't believe me - download the file and count the frames.

Sleeperz · 04-30-2012, 01:00 PM

6.2 sec from stop. clutch dump from 4600 RPM.
Video start 0-60 mph run @ 1:50

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5528

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsgerbc

7+ seconds from a dead stop, not from 2-3mph. Don't believe me - download the file and count the frames.

dsgerbc · 04-30-2012, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleeperz

6.2 sec from stop. clutch dump from 4600 RPM.
Video start 0-60 mph run @ 1:50

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5528

I'm not disputing it can be done, just the particular video that was referenced. Launch in that one was pretty gentle.

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Steve Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 6MT Location: Markham, ON Posts: 311 Thanks: 3 Thanked 101 Times in 63 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	having to go into 3rd to hit 60 kills the number on paper how to not be shunned by oblivious fast and the furious enthusiasts? :O at least the car looks fast better yet, imagine a world where everything little thing wasn't compared, nit picked and measured in numbers. but instead decisions were based on feel, whoa mind blown thanks to fairly lightweight this car will feel faster than these numbers suggest, it will feel faster than bigger cars that go faster even better yet, you can take the corner faster, and taking corners fast is even more fun than going in a straight line fast whoa mind blown more Last edited by Steve; 04-29-2012 at 11:05 PM.

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