FI in cali

[KR-S]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Intercooler swaps are always legal.

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

Yes, although I have read on other forums that they were problematic for people, but like FMIC or catback exhausts, they don't require an EO#. The technician could get squirmish about it and fail someone because someone modified the PCV system, but then again, I believe they would be wrong.

https://www.challengertalk.com/attac...an-pdf.876970/

This is interesting. Are there any benefits at all to swapping an FMIC by itself (without doing anything else), aside from perhaps wanting to change it from a TMIC?

I'm also curious about the closed-loop catch can being exempt as well as any stories of people legitimately passing smog with these modifications. In fact, is there anything else that is exempt from smog?

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by KR-S 86

This is interesting. Are there any benefits at all to swapping an FMIC by itself (without doing anything else), aside from perhaps wanting to change it from a TMIC?

I'm also curious about the closed-loop catch can being exempt as well as any stories of people legitimately passing smog with these modifications. In fact, is there anything else that is exempt from smog?

To be honest, I don’t know if it is possible to modify the kit and to pass smog. In the case of the MKIV Supra, for example, the OEM side mount intercooler could easily be replaced with a FMIC with slight modifications or replacement of the pipes, where this kit integrates the BOV into the main intake pipe and IC pipe. If it could be done then the FMIC would simplify the system and could be better for longer track sessions where heat soak is an issue, and there is probably a weight benefit. The air-to-water IC is preferable for city driving, where air flow is limited, and the IC is smaller and leaves more room up front for oil coolers. These are generalities.

The link I posted has the list.

[KR-S]

Can't quote you (thanks forum glitches) but yeah, the MKIV Supra was the first thing that came to mind with its tiny SMIC.

That's a pretty cool list. I'm still curious if anyone has had problems smogging even with legitimate mods. Only question I have now: has anything changed in the smog process that would differ from that list?

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by KR-S 86

Can't quote you (thanks forum glitches) but yeah, the MKIV Supra was the first thing that came to mind with its tiny SMIC.

That's a pretty cool list. I'm still curious if anyone has had problems smogging even with legitimate mods. Only question I have now: has anything changed in the smog process that would differ from that list?

I have smogged with catbacks and with EO items like CAI and passed.

The process is simpler for newer cars that have to smog after eight years. There is a visual inspection and a OBD2 readiness test. That is it.

[airrick]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

...The process is simpler for newer cars that have to smog after eight years. There is a visual inspection and a OBD2 readiness test. That is it.

I do have a question about this new smog law. My car is a 2015 car, but im the 2nd owner, purchased in 2017. Question is, so my first year that i will need to car smogged will be 2023?

[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by airrick

I do have a question about this new smog law. My car is a 2015 car, but im the 2nd owner, purchased in 2017. Question is, so my first year that i will need to car smogged will be 2023?

Yeah, it'll be sometime then. The law is eight years and newer. I have a 2013 model, so I don't know if it is this year or next year when I'll have to smog my car for the first time. I don't know if it is build date and my car has a newer build date than 2013 or what. If I was going to go straight from the numbers and verbiage then it would seem that the ninth year is the year to smog the car, which looks like this: 2013 (1), 2014 (2), 2015 (3), 2016 (4), 2017 (5), 2018 (6), 2019 (7), 2020 (8) and 2021 (9), so 2021 is the year for me, and 2023 is the year for you.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by airrick

I do have a question about this new smog law. My car is a 2015 car, but im the 2nd owner, purchased in 2017. Question is, so my first year that i will need to car smogged will be 2023?

Used cars it's every 2 years no matter the model year. Law only applies to new cars purchased by the original owner.

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[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Used cars it's every 2 years no matter the model year. Law only applies to new cars purchased by the original owner.

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This is incorrect.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0

This is incorrect.

So your saying regardless of it's used or not our cars have 8 years to be smog free?

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[Irace86.2.0]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

So your saying regardless of it's used or not our cars have 8 years to be smog free?

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That is mostly correct.

I do NOT live in a smog exempt area of California (Santa Rosa), and I have owned and registered my CPO 2013 BRZ since December of 2015, and I have NEVER had to smog my car in the 4+ years of ownership, so unless the DMV messed up, I am fairly certain that it is 8 years regardless.

With that said, I am 99.999% certain that a change in ownership requires a smog certificate. As such is the case, if a car was purchased then sold/traded-in after only say 1500 miles, the seller (private party or dealership) would be responsible for smogging the vehicle and providing that to the new owner within 30 days of the sale. The exception to the smog rule for a change in ownership is a transfer/sale of title/ownership to a family member.

[Bach415]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

So your saying regardless of it's used or not our cars have 8 years to be smog free?

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That is correct. I am technically the original owner of my car (was purchased under another relatives name due to just barey starting my credit). Had the car transferred into my name and did smog for the transfer of vehicle around this time in 2018. Just had my registration renewed for this year and it did not request for smog this year (would have been 2 years already). Just received my reg papers and sticker with no issue. I assume I will not need to smog until next year (which is 8 years since I have a 2013) then every 2 years after.

[jflogerzi]

Originally Posted by Bach415

That is correct. I am technically the original owner of my car (was purchased under another relatives name due to just barey starting my credit). Had the car transferred into my name and did smog for the transfer of vehicle around this time in 2018. Just had my registration renewed for this year and it did not request for smog this year (would have been 2 years already). Just received my reg papers and sticker with no issue. I assume I will not need to smog until next year (which is 8 years since I have a 2013) then every 2 years after.

Fantastic news! This means I have another year till I need to deal with smog

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[Jaden]

Originally Posted by jflogerzi

Used cars it's every 2 years no matter the model year. Law only applies to new cars purchased by the original owner.

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I had my car in Cali 6 years second owner, never had to smog it.

Jaden

[re-animator]

Originally Posted by Jaden

I had my car in Cali 6 years second owner, never had to smog it.

Jaden

i just got my registration again for my 2013 BRZ. I bought it used July of 2017 - it was originally sold and registered May of 2013. Did not have to smog, but i presume I will have to smog next year once it reaches the end of the 8 year abatement.