Anyone else drive their BRZ hard?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by atomicalex

Little Old Lady Driven

[atomicalex]

Originally Posted by korhun

I haven't heard of old lady-man concept before this forum. Similarly in Turkey we have a "doctor driven car" thing. I assume they take driving classes in medical schools.

In Germany, we have "old man with a hat". Usually driving a Jetta.

<-- Jetta-free household.

[cliff]

Grandpa here. So I would like to take a poll here. I value the opinion of this forum. If you were buying a used BRZ which car would you choose. Both cars are exactly the same, (year,color, mileage, options price). Car #1 is the "grandpa car"as described in an earlier post. Car #2 is a car that was driven as it was designed to be driven. Both cars have all maintenance up to date.

[TommyW]

Originally Posted by cliff

Grandpa here. So I would like to take a poll here. I value the opinion of this forum. If you were buying a used BRZ which car would you choose. Both cars are exactly the same, (year,color, mileage, options price). Car #1 is the "grandpa car"as described in an earlier post. Car #2 is a car that was driven as it was designed to be driven. Both cars have all maintenance up to date.

you can drive how you want. Just make sure you aren’t driving easier than you’d like just for resale. Saving it for the next guy is like not screwing your girlfriend so she’s less used for the next guy

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by cliff

Grandpa here. So I would like to take a poll here. I value the opinion of this forum. If you were buying a used BRZ which car would you choose. Both cars are exactly the same, (year,color, mileage, options price). Car #1 is the "grandpa car"as described in an earlier post. Car #2 is a car that was driven as it was designed to be driven. Both cars have all maintenance up to date.

The one that has been pushed a bit. I am leery of "grampa" driven cars.
You are stacking the poll anyway since the likelihood of finding and confirming each car is as claimed is improbable.


Also need to clarify this frequently thrown around term "designed to be driven". It was designed to be a street car that can occasionally be used on a track. If somebody is beating it on a track (or the street for that matter) everyday it has been used beyond it's design criteria. On the flip side it was not designed to travel around at under 3,000K all the time so that "grampa" car has been driven beyond the criteria as well. There is a happy median.

All in all it is just a car and cars can get driven and be just fine. Trying to preserve it by "grampa" driving it is just the waste of a good car.

[Tcoat]

Anybody else have grandparents that had plastic covers on their furniture to "keep it nice"?

[cliff]

I get that. But still I would like to know which car would most BRZ folks choose?

[korhun]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Anybody else have grandparents that had plastic covers on their furniture to "keep it nice"?

My grand parents used to put something like this:


But they opened them only for me and my grandpa was a famous retired chief, who made his great foods only for me; so I was at their house all the time. How I missed them..

[NCtoBRZ]

Originally Posted by cliff

I get that. But still I would like to know which car would most BRZ folks choose?

Not the one in which the engine never went over 3k RPM, that’s just asking for trouble...

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by cliff

I get that. But still I would like to know which car would most BRZ folks choose?

Think you will find it will be the one that was actually driven.

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by cliff

Grandpa here. So I would like to take a poll here. I value the opinion of this forum. If you were buying a used BRZ which car would you choose. Both cars are exactly the same, (year,color, mileage, options price). Car #1 is the "grandpa car"as described in an earlier post. Car #2 is a car that was driven as it was designed to be driven. Both cars have all maintenance up to date.

Originally Posted by cliff

I get that. But still I would like to know which car would most BRZ folks choose?

i would then shop on haggling price. because one of them will be willing to go lower.

though really, this whole debate is just playing with shadow puppets. at the end of the day, there is no way to verify the authenticity of any of these claims.

i bought a truck from an older guy, he was the 2nd owner from 2 years old to the present 15 years.

he claimed he never towed with it. an obviously-used trailer ball was stuck in the hitch-- i later had to spend 25 minutes with a 5 pound sledge hammer to get that hitch out... he had a few receipts from the duration of owning it, mostly pep boys. he said he kept it around mostly for 4x4 in the winter, but rarely ever drove it. it was the lowest mileage truck i could find anywhere. i get it home, and realize that a significant portion of the bed no longer exists due to rust.

i've lately been using his pep boy's receipts to follow what actually needs to be worked on, because the same issues are popping up that were 'repaired', because they weren't actually repaired, just cleaned up/covered over...

the repair history of any vehicle, either verbal or through receipts, is almost useless outside of a private inspection.

[86MLR]

Because old people never thrash their cars or lie

Cool thread

[Clipdat]

Originally Posted by cliff

Let me ask you this question. If you were in the market for a BRZ and if you found 2 cars exactly the same and the only difference was that one was my car (the grandpa car) and the other was one driven to the full extent as designed to be driven. Which one would you buy?

Not yours.

[86MLR]

This gets me to the point about if a engine has been broken in "well".

I see alot of talk about blowby, not just the twins, but alot of manufacturers, I put some of this down to poor ring to bore seal, I put that down to not loading the engine up "hard" within the first real heat cycle.

Point of note is I have never had blowby issues in any engine I have broken in hard.

My EJ STI for instance (a classic example for blowby), running 22psi, thrashing the life out it day on day out, never had a issue, others, who have "broken it in by the manual" end up with oily intakes and catch cans full of oil.

Meh

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