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Old 09-15-2018, 09:18 AM   #1
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BRZ oil cooler?

Can anyone tell me if the 2017 BRZ has an oil cooler. Also what are the opinions of what is the best oil to use. This link raises some concerns.
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:50 AM   #2
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This video does sort of explain why I get better mpg when the oil is over 5k miles and why it's getting better mpg now that it's over 100k miles. The oil is (even) thinner at that point and the engines tolerances have loosened up a bit. I do generally drive somewhat gently as far as rpm's are concerned with most shifts in the low 4k range other than the occasional hard pull on highway entrance ramps or when the road ahead of me dictates that a bit of fun is necessary but that's not often in the grand scheme of things. I didn't this summer but the last few I ran 5W30 and had no problems but my fuel economy was down as much as 2mpg per tank. I drive upwards of 30k per year so mpg's are pretty important to me, my fun is had more in corners than speed.

All that said, I like the way the engine responds to the Castrol Edge in the gold bottle. Not long ago a guy on here made a pretty strong point for the Idemitsu or Toyota 0W20 oil based on shear and viscosity characteristics so I'll probably use that in my next change at the end of this month.
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No 86 twin of any model year currently comes from the factory with an oil cooler.
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Old 11-01-2018, 06:28 AM   #4
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I’m not an expert in any mean, but have done a lot of reasearch and logging on this lately, here’s a summary of my findings:

It depends on your use. An oil cooler is pretty much a must if you plan to track the car, and recommended (but not absolutely required) for street use if you have plans to go forced induction. i used the Jackson Racing dual cooler setup, and it is very efficient for year round use. The oem cooler may be a good choice for NA street use, but this depnds on your driving. I use 5w40 weight oil since I went turbo, as my oil temps are higher than with Na when the revs build up. Based on oil temos I have seen, on an NA setup, it would be worthwhile to consider higher grade oil if one is regularly and consistently driving the car in the high rev range (above 4000rpm), in this case a quality 0w40 or 5w30 could make sense. You can log your oil temp with a obd2 wifi dongle and app, and find out. The 2017 model also has a pid to log oil pressure.
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Holy shit..... are people.... wait never mind. Yes they are.
Lots of weak google-fu around these parts.
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Holy shit..... are people.... wait never mind. Yes they are.
Lots of weak google-fu around these parts.
Woah... just relax....
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Woah... just relax....
I did. I could have said worse.
Or was that too much? Did it seem too harsh?
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I did. I could have said worse.
Or was that too much? Did it seem too harsh?
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Well now, Mr.ac, since you invited me into this, I'll express my opinion -

The OP @cliff is new to this forum and most likely new to this car. It appears that he sees a video and starts over thinking this whole oil thing, - as many newbies do.

The tone of your post reflects, what I'm guessing, is a shortage of Civics in your inventory and may have been a bit terse -

Ol @weederr33 just "butted in", to try to soften your post.

Now, cliff, if you want to research the hell out of this oil thing, as a hobby, that's fine, have at it -

However, if you are just concerned about what oil is good for your car's engine, the answer is simple - any name brand, full synthetic, 0w20 weight oil will do just fine, for average driving.

See - how simple that is -


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I did. I could have said worse.
Or was that too much? Did it seem too harsh?
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Nah, you did fine.
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No standard OIL Cooler. Tons of options.. Ranging from an OEM style cooler, Air to Air radiators and then the ones that combine it with a replaced radiator that does both... Best OIL is really up to the driver, conditions, and weight selected which has its pro's and cons. I prefer Mobile 1 0W-20 atm as I am doing 90% street driving.
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Just to throw my 2 cents out there ..

Unless you're doing constantly high RPM mountain driving, hard pulls from every red light, tracking your car hard, or ≥100F outside, stick to 0W20.

My top choices: Toyota Genuine Motor Oil 0W20, Idemitsu Zepro 0W20 (eco medalist or adv. moly), and Eneos Sustina 0W20.
These 3 oils pretty much the only ones that have >200 viscosity index (that I have found).
In other words, provides the most consistent lubrication between wide temperature ranges. Protects your engine during "cold" (≤80F) starts and noticeably lowers the engine noise and vibration.

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Anecdotal but, I changed to the Toyota 0W20 for the first time last week and while the air temp has only been in the mid 30's (F) the car is starting more smoothly than it used to. In the past I've used either Mobil1 that the dealer uses when they change the oil or Castrol Edge when I change it. I've also noticed that it's smoother and quieter above 4k rpm with the air temp in the mid 50's (F). These obs are about as accurate as a butt dyno but I like to think that I'm fairly well in tune with my car so...

FWIW I was very surprised that the Toyota oil was ~$6/qt including sales tax (9.something%) so depending on how it holds up I'll most likely continue using it rather than the Edge that I've been liking for a while now.
Here's some stuff I posted recently: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...=129298&page=4


And there are lots of 0W20 oil analysis coming back saying its plenty safe and good for our engine - no excess wear.
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