follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > FT86CLUB Shared Forum > FR-S / BRZ vs....

FR-S / BRZ vs.... Area to discuss the FR-S/BRZ against its competitors [NO STREET RACING]


User Tag List

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-23-2014, 07:52 PM   #1
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,529
Thanks: 1,999
Thanked 2,013 Times in 1,457 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Twin vs VW 2015 GTI

Reading about the new 7th generation GTI, I am seriously considering trading the FRS for one. After 2 years of ownership, I have been to the track twice with the car, I really don't live near great roads, and my love for the car is starting to wean. I will admit maybe I was swept up in the hype. I still love my FR-S, but my needs and wants in life for a car are changing. Also with the wife hinting at kids in the near future, a 4 door will be a must. The GTI represents what I want in a car. Can handle 4 people, has decent power for city driving, can still have fun on curvy roads, but has a level of luxury, build quality and materials the FRS can't match. The Twins are great cars and we all know the money went into the chassis. The GTI is overall just a solid car. Anyone test drive one yet?
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2014, 08:13 PM   #2
pantdino
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: Firestorm 2013 FR-S
Location: Cerritos, CA
Posts: 265
Thanks: 7
Thanked 95 Times in 57 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
When you have kids you'll want a minivan for her, so don't think the GTI is going to suffice.


I don't think of the GTI as a luxury car, but I've never driven or looked at one.
pantdino is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to pantdino For This Useful Post:
Jrryjms07 (08-24-2014)
Old 08-23-2014, 08:20 PM   #3
cnk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,201
Thanks: 59
Thanked 547 Times in 339 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I've got 2 kids age 4 and 6 and I would not consider the Gti much better than the twins. My wife has a Mazda3 and even that is a bit on the small side. I would look at something bigger like an Outback/Forester or small SUV.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
cnk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2014, 08:24 PM   #4
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,529
Thanks: 1,999
Thanked 2,013 Times in 1,457 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Hum.. GTI does have 4 doors. Interesting thoughts. Thanks.
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2014, 08:25 PM   #5
pantdino
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: Firestorm 2013 FR-S
Location: Cerritos, CA
Posts: 265
Thanks: 7
Thanked 95 Times in 57 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by cnk View Post
I've got 2 kids age 4 and 6 and I would not consider the Gti much better than the twins. My wife has a Mazda3 and even that is a bit on the small side. I would look at something bigger like an Outback/Forester or small SUV.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
"Have kid" = need room for stroller, diapers, etc, etc.


A small sedan will only work for a while when they are infants, before they need a large stroller.
pantdino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2014, 08:30 PM   #6
cnk
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: '13 DGM BRZ Limited
Location: NJ
Posts: 1,201
Thanks: 59
Thanked 547 Times in 339 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by pantdino View Post
"Have kid" = need room for stroller, diapers, etc, etc.


A small sedan will only work for a while when they are infants, before they need a large stroller.
Mazda3 hatch, not sedan. And we don't use a large stroller anymore. Umbrella stroller if needed. We had a Chicco key fit stroller system with diaper bags, etc. without problems. All depends on how light of a packer you are. I know some young families that pretty much pack half the house when they go out.

Minivans didn't exist when I was growing up and families did fine with hatchbacks and sedans. Just learn to only bring what you need.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk
cnk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2014, 10:22 PM   #7
jvincent
Senior Member
 
jvincent's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Drives: 2022 WRB BRZ Sport-Tech
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Posts: 1,746
Thanks: 131
Thanked 1,410 Times in 715 Posts
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
Our two cars when our kids were small were an Echo and a Matrix. You can get by with a smaller car.

I moved to the FRS when the oldest left for University.
jvincent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-23-2014, 10:39 PM   #8
thill
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2020 SS1LE (previous 13 BRZ owner)
Location: North Pole
Posts: 2,753
Thanks: 328
Thanked 1,463 Times in 802 Posts
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Lol one kid on the way eventually and he needs a minivan??

Op, the GTI is a very practical car for a small family. It is a hatchback, a stroller will fit with no problem. Three kids? Yeah get the minivan..

My only advice would be to wait a year for VW to work out the kinks and for the hype to die down. The GTI is being produced in Mexico for the first time for the North American market and VW's reliability is not on par with the Japanese.
thill is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to thill For This Useful Post:
Atropine (08-25-2014), Frishkorn (09-05-2014), hmong337 (08-27-2014), jflogerzi (08-23-2014), n2oinferno (08-25-2014)
Old 08-23-2014, 10:42 PM   #9
Cope52
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2014
Drives: 2014 BRZ
Location: God's Country
Posts: 127
Thanks: 3
Thanked 52 Times in 20 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
I drove one. It was a real disappointment. Overly light controls, weird, overly quick steering and a minivan like view out. And the ride was so pillowy I couldn't feel the road. I was happy to get out. Don't know why the mags are raving about it.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeeMaster View Post
I cannot stress this enough, when I changed my rear differential fluid with Motul 300, my clutch engagement point felt smoother.
Cope52 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Cope52 For This Useful Post:
caus (08-29-2014)
Old 08-23-2014, 11:01 PM   #10
jflogerzi
Senior Member
 
jflogerzi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Drives: 2013 Series 10 6MT FR-S
Location: Moreno Valley, CA
Posts: 5,529
Thanks: 1,999
Thanked 2,013 Times in 1,457 Posts
Mentioned: 72 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cope52 View Post
I drove one. It was a real disappointment. Overly light controls, weird, overly quick steering and a minivan like view out. And the ride was so pillowy I couldn't feel the road. I was happy to get out. Don't know why the mags are raving about it.
wow thats interesting. Thanks for the feedback
jflogerzi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2014, 01:43 AM   #11
Fortis
Senior Member
 
Fortis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Drives: 2014 FR-S AT Asphalt
Location: East Bay, CA
Posts: 346
Thanks: 126
Thanked 195 Times in 100 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
250 lb-ft of torque at like 2000 rpm's + FWD = My old '07 GTI would have some prominent torque steer with 207 lb-ft of torque. It's probably terrible in the 2015's...
Fortis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2014, 02:05 AM   #12
pantdino
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Drives: Firestorm 2013 FR-S
Location: Cerritos, CA
Posts: 265
Thanks: 7
Thanked 95 Times in 57 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
[QUOTE=thill;1914140]Lol one kid on the way eventually and he needs a minivan??

Op, the GTI is a very practical car for a small family. It is a hatchback, a stroller will fit with no problem. Three kids? Yeah get the minivan..

QUOTE]


OP-- if you get the GTI and go camping with a big tent so the playpen can fit inside, cooler, camp stove, sleeping bags, etc, etc, please post a pic of how you got all that stuff into it.
pantdino is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2014, 04:18 AM   #13
xmadror
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Drives: BRZ Sport Tech 13
Location: Canada, Qc
Posts: 118
Thanks: 25
Thanked 98 Times in 48 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by pantdino View Post
When you have kids she'll want a minivan for herself, so don't think the GTI is going to suffice.
There fixed that for you.

It might not be needed but she'll still want it!
xmadror is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-24-2014, 06:18 AM   #14
krayzie
Drive From Home
 
krayzie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Drives: BRZ STI Performance
Location: Filth City
Posts: 4,914
Thanks: 2,368
Thanked 3,111 Times in 2,007 Posts
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cope52 View Post
I drove one. It was a real disappointment. Overly light controls, weird, overly quick steering and a minivan like view out. And the ride was so pillowy I couldn't feel the road. I was happy to get out. Don't know why the mags are raving about it.
I know they have fitted a variable ratio steering rack on this car...

Wow that's messed up. And the mags say the dude that worked on the 911 GT3 RS was assigned to work on the Mk7 Golf GTI.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kl8AP6CoyI"]Golf GTI Mk.VII Road Test. - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS - YouTube[/ame]
krayzie is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Nissan to enter 2015 24 Hours of Le Mans + 2015 FIA WEC mav1178 Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions 1 05-23-2014 10:47 PM
what's the difference between twin screw, centrifugal, single turbo and twin turbo? warplane95 Forced Induction 86 04-17-2014 02:36 PM
2015 86/BRZ vs 2015 Eclipse botbs FR-S / BRZ vs.... 55 04-16-2014 04:07 AM
my twin RWDGUY Mid-Atlantic 2 04-08-2013 09:23 PM
The twin and a smartphone IloveBaldEagles Electronics | Audio | NAV | Infotainment 8 12-16-2012 07:36 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.