Check engine light just came on after 2k miles.

[danthedirt]

Originally Posted by yayforaddison

The crank shaft position sensor sounds like the same issue some of the others are also having with the idle issue. Have you happened to notice any strange idle dip? Does your idle ever randomly drop below 400rpm? Would love to know if this is all related to this little sensor, or even the crank shaft itself.

Yea! Right before the EC light came on, the car rpms dipped for a few seconds causing the car to shake. Was the first and only time it happened though. Feels good knowing there is such a supportive community growing around such a new car that can offer great feedback.

[trifenix]

I smell tsb coming soon?

[excited86]

Originally Posted by trifenix

I smell tsb coming soon?

if this continues, its gonna hurt both toyota and subaru real bad.

[86'd]

Originally Posted by excited86

if this continues, its gonna hurt both toyota and subaru real bad.

Nah. This happens a lot on 1st year cars.

If engines start blowing up and/or people get hurt from a problem, then it's time to complain.

So instead of WPP (White People Problems, you have First Year Problems. FYP.)

[the_3d_man]

Dealerships are always so quick to say that the ECU must be defective. I've NEVER seen a car with a bad ECU. They don't just fail but I know so many people who in the process of trying to diagnose a problem have had the dealership replace the ECU. It's just the answer that dumb service techs like to give.

[excited86]

Originally Posted by the_3d_man

Dealerships are always so quick to say that the ECU must be defective. I've NEVER seen a car with a bad ECU. They don't just fail but I know so many people who in the process of trying to diagnose a problem have had the dealership replace the ECU. It's just the answer that dumb service techs like to give.

that messed up.

[eriktherod]

Originally Posted by the_3d_man

Dealerships are always so quick to say that the ECU must be defective. I've NEVER seen a car with a bad ECU. They don't just fail but I know so many people who in the process of trying to diagnose a problem have had the dealership replace the ECU. It's just the answer that dumb service techs like to give.

AGREED. The only time I've seen a bad ECU was on a 12+ year old Dodge Stratus. However, I've heard tons of people having their ECUs replaced and the problem persist (not in the FRS/BRZ, other vehicles).

The crankshaft position sensor would definitely be causing issues like this with rough idle and potential stalls. The sensor must be just a little off or something because with a real bad sensor you'd get problems starting and misfire codes (and noticeable problems accelerating). Then again, this is a brand new car so maybe a bad batch of parts from OEM? However, why the ABS light stays illuminated is also interesting. Those are pretty unrelated!

I figured the car would have at least one FYP, something minor hopefully. This isn't too bad, the 06 Si had tranny problems and I am glad ours does not (*knock on wood*).

[danthedirt]

Originally Posted by eriktherod

The crankshaft position sensor would definitely be causing issues like this with rough idle and potential stalls. However, why the ABS light stays illuminated is also interesting. Those are pretty unrelated!

Actually after looking over the manual again, its the Slip indicator light that is stuck on. The same light that comes on when your TS and SC kicks in.

In the manual in the fine print reads:
If indicator does not turn off within a few seconds of starting engine, there may be a
malfunction. Have vehicle inspected by your Scion or Toyota dealer.

Im going to update my OP.

[eriktherod]

Oh, that is interesting. Wonder if that's a code for particular engine issues, doubt your diff is broken!

[R8]

Originally Posted by danthedirt

Actually after looking over the manual again, its the Slip indicator light that is stuck on. The same light that comes on when your TS and SC kicks in.

In the manual in the fine print reads:
If indicator does not turn off within a few seconds of starting engine, there may be a
malfunction. Have vehicle inspected by your Scion or Toyota dealer.

Im going to update my OP.

Maybe try turning the TC/SC off and on again? Just outa curiousity, still need to have it checked out though...

[yayforaddison]

This all sounds very related to the idle issue some of us are having that may have to do with that sensor. Some others have also reported misfires, rough idle, ect.

The more I hear about it, the more it's narrowing down to the same problem.

[Laika]

Originally Posted by Asterisked Accolade

Something i noticed was when you enter the FRS forum, the first thing you see is at least 3 threads about car problems. When you go to the BRZ forum, this problem is nearly non-existent.

This is true...probably because all the BRZ threads are along the lines of "Why the hell don't I have my BRZ yet?"

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by Laika

This is true...probably because all the BRZ threads are along the lines of "Why the hell don't I have my BRZ yet?"

So true, they can thank all of the FR-S guys for being the beta testers and keeping them from going through this.

[Thunderchicken]

From what it looks like Toyota has done the something as Subaru and holding off shipments till they get this nailed down. On a side note it like to see the 5why notes.