Dyno -- Stock vs Ace Header / Tune (oem everything else)

[Lantana frs]

Originally Posted by stevo585

Three stations in Orlando and a bunch in Tampa. It is a pain. I'm about 10-15 miles from a station as I'm near UCF. I do usually grab a tank plus 10 gallons at a time.

Been to the track yet? Before the ESC best I did was 14.3 @ 97.

Racetrack station in Lantana has e85. Pump says 51percent minimum ethanol so im leery of using it without a flex fuel kit.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by shu5892001

Impressive result, still looks like it's the best header on the market. Although result not as impressive as the "independent" dyno from the only vendor that sells it lol.

I bet the OP would get more power out of it if he invested some more time on the dyno, or purchased a Ace-specific tune.

The progress made in power is available for anyone to see; you're more than welcome to visit Church Automotive Testing yourself, to see how the power was achieved (and how many hours were spent on the dyno to achieve that repeatable result).

[endless_pain]

Originally Posted by IPGJames

has an interesting sound with header on the rest of the stock exhaust...a bit raspy at lower rpm and partial throttle but sounds nice at wide open throttle...on a scale of 1-10 on how much louder than stock header it is I would give it a 3 ...a noticeable increase in noise but not out of control at all.

This is the Ace Type-A, 4-2-1, 350 collector

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8LNmLsaU1E"]BRZ vs BRZ Road Atlanta - YouTube[/ame]


Time for a rematch!

[IPGJames]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I bet the OP would get more power out of it if he invested some more time on the dyno, or purchased a Ace-specific tune.

The progress made in power is available for anyone to see; you're more than welcome to visit Church Automotive Testing yourself, to see how the power was achieved (and how many hours were spent on the dyno to achieve that repeatable result).

Alright well let's put your money where your mouth is ....I have access to a dyno anytime and I have no invested interest towards anyone on any of these parts.....this isn't our first rodeo ..... You can't just say things like we need to spend more time on the dyno or buy your tune ....let's see you prove it

[GoJoshGo]

Originally Posted by IPGJames

Alright well let's put your money where your mouth is ....I have access to a dyno anytime and I have no invested interest towards anyone on any of these parts.....this isn't our first rodeo ..... You can't just say things like we need to spend more time on the dyno or buy your tune ....let's see you prove it

Are you asking for a free header? Or to become a dealer (I note you're a vendor of competing parts)?

I think the performance of this header is well established.

[stevo585]

Originally Posted by Lantana frs

Racetrack station in Lantana has e85. Pump says 51percent minimum ethanol so im leery of using it without a flex fuel kit.

From what people with flex fuel kits in the car clubs use the e85 never really goes below 70% or above 83%. We don't get the "winter" blends down in the 50s.

I don't have flex fuel. I use map modes from RaceRom. I have a e65 map for fill up #1 and/or winter time. Then an e80 map for fill up #2+ and summer time. There on the lean side which is safer on e85. Rich can make you knock actually. Some don't know this.

[bhmax]

Looks good! Can't wait to add this to mine soon. Was CSG selling the Ace header when they started the independent review thread?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by bhmax

Looks good! Can't wait to add this to mine soon. Was CSG selling the Ace header when they started the independent review thread?

Nope. That result is what convinced CSG to sell the header.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by phrosty

But yes, like you said I do agree that calling review "independent" when you sell it is sketchy, and people really do need to learn their mileage will vary beyond "different dyno" when compared to record numbers on dyno sheets. Those numbers took way more time to get than most people have money to spend at a tuner.

Correct. It's the result of approximately 80 flashes, with 4 maps per flash, for a soft total of about 300 iterations and nearly 500 pulls.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by IPGJames

Alright well let's put your money where your mouth is ....I have access to a dyno anytime and I have no invested interest towards anyone on any of these parts.....this isn't our first rodeo ..... You can't just say things like we need to spend more time on the dyno or buy your tune ....let's see you prove it

@sales@delicioustuning.com

Challenge issued.

[Teseo]

[CSG Mike]

On Elite Performance's dyno, tuned by them.

[finch1750]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

On Elite Performance's dyno, tuned by them.

Is the extra HP at the expense of the torque dip? I get HP would be more important on a racetrack but what about for autox? Couse dependant?

Wondering cuz I currently have Tomei but am highly considering Ace for a competative build.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by finch1750

Is the extra HP at the expense of the torque dip? I get HP would be more important on a racetrack but what about for autox? Couse dependant?

Wondering cuz I currently have Tomei but am highly considering Ace for a competative build.

I'm not exactly sure what you're asking...

The brief dip in the torque band is often caused by a cam timing anomaly. Different ramp times and/or different gears alter that false dip on a tuned Ace header car, because it's not "actually there"; its only there under a certain set of conditions.