Front lower control arms, which set would you want? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Jeff@Racer X Fab · 12-08-2013, 11:15 PM

A couple of weeks ago we posted a few pics on our instagram account of a prototype front lower control arm that we are considering offering in addition to the front lower control arms we already have. We have had our full race version control arms on the market for almost a year now, but we would like to offer an alternative for the guys that don't want to go all out.

The two options we are looking at are a non adjustable replacement that would use urethane inserts. The other set would use adjustable rod ends, but not as extreme as our race version. Both sets of control arms about 1 pound lighter than the OEM control arm, and are both 4130 chromoly.

Please provide your thoughts and opinions, and lets see what we can do to offer an affordable set of front lower control arms that will be of interest to the community.

A few pics for reference: (the black coated arms are the front lower control arms we already sell)

Captain Snooze · 12-09-2013, 01:23 AM

Could you please tell me/us what the practical differences are between the two versions of adjustable arms?

DriftEightSix · 12-09-2013, 01:45 AM

Also price difference.

& how much camber to expect

I'd say adjustable with urethane bushings(yes that is correct).

JDKane527 · 12-09-2013, 01:47 AM

As well as caster

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Jeff@Racer X Fab · 12-09-2013, 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Captain Snooze

Could you please tell me/us what the practical differences are between the two versions of adjustable arms?

Main difference between the arms we currently offer and the adjustable arms we might offer are weight, and being able to adjust the arms on the vehicle. The cost is higher for the arms we currently offer due to the amount of hardware that we have to purchase, and time to build.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DriftEightSix

Also price difference.

& how much camber to expect

I'd say adjustable with urethane bushings(yes that is correct).

6 to 8 degrees of camber, which would be more than needed in most cases. We already offer urethane bushings, with the arms we currently offer. For the arms above it would be one or the other.

Non adjustable arms range: $475 to $495

Adjustable arms: $529 to $559

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDKane527

As well as caster

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The adjustable arms have caster movement.

Dustin · 12-09-2013, 09:21 PM

Adjustable

Shit Luck · 12-10-2013, 10:07 AM

i will take adjustables...

mad_sb · 12-10-2013, 10:35 AM

C. Adjustable with urethane bushings

Shit Luck · 12-12-2013, 07:58 PM

to be honest i didnt order the originals cause i think they look like shit. i mean they are function i get it, but if i am gonna spend money on a part i dont want it to look bad on the car.
the new adjustable design is spot on. i would order those.

diss7 · 12-12-2013, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck

to be honest i didnt order the originals cause i think they look like shit. i mean they are function i get it, but if i am gonna spend money on a part i dont want it to look bad on the car.
the new adjustable design is spot on. i would order those.

Fair enough. Its important the car looks good for the alignment guy working under it.

Shit Luck · 12-12-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by diss7

Fair enough. Its important the car looks good for the alignment guy working under it.

if i have a rock crawler at home that has better looking suspension components on it than my car there is a problem.
especially considering how good the robispec arms looked.

d1ck · 12-12-2013, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck

if i have a rock crawler at home that has better looking suspension components on it than my car there is a problem.
especially considering how good the robispec arms looked.

You realize that the arms that are on the car now are stamped metal, right? Maybe you didn't because nobody ever sees them. The control arm is there for one purpose only, and it's not to look pretty.

diss7 · 12-12-2013, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shit Luck

if i have a rock crawler at home that has better looking suspension components on it than my car there is a problem.
especially considering how good the robispec arms looked.

Fair enough. You can do what you like at the end of the day. And I'm not really having a serious dig. More just having a laugh that something that is 100% for functional use, it being judged on cosmetics.

Shit Luck · 12-12-2013, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d1ck

You realize that the arms that are on the car now are stamped metal, right? Maybe you didn't because nobody ever sees them. The control arm is there for one purpose only, and it's not to look pretty.

thanks i understand what a control arm is and does.
people do see them, you may not care what they look like but a high end performance part should look like one. welds should look good, material and fit and finish should be top notch.

View Poll Results: Which front lower control arms would you want?
Non adjustable with urethane bushings	4	20.00%
Adjustable with rod ends	16	80.00%
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Jeff@Racer X Fab Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ, Toyota MR2 Turbo Location: Lansing, MI Posts: 321 Thanks: 92 Thanked 340 Times in 135 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Front lower control arms, which set would you want? A couple of weeks ago we posted a few pics on our instagram account of a prototype front lower control arm that we are considering offering in addition to the front lower control arms we already have. We have had our full race version control arms on the market for almost a year now, but we would like to offer an alternative for the guys that don't want to go all out. The two options we are looking at are a non adjustable replacement that would use urethane inserts. The other set would use adjustable rod ends, but not as extreme as our race version. Both sets of control arms about 1 pound lighter than the OEM control arm, and are both 4130 chromoly. Please provide your thoughts and opinions, and lets see what we can do to offer an affordable set of front lower control arms that will be of interest to the community. A few pics for reference: (the black coated arms are the front lower control arms we already sell)

12-09-2013, 01:23 AM	#2
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12-12-2013, 07:58 PM	#9
Shit Luck Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: red frs Location: pa Posts: 1,031 Thanks: 244 Thanked 229 Times in 140 Posts Mentioned: 11 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	to be honest i didnt order the originals cause i think they look like shit. i mean they are function i get it, but if i am gonna spend money on a part i dont want it to look bad on the car. the new adjustable design is spot on. i would order those.

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