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Old 12-09-2016, 07:05 PM   #15
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If you're buying a sports car because you're getting old, I highly recommend the Corvette.
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Old 12-09-2016, 07:36 PM   #16
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Wait, 3 days for your work week? What do you do? Man I need a job like that.

Honestly with your commute I'd go BRZ. It will get the best gas mileage if you baby it, several people on here including me get 32 mpg dd'ing it.

Are you mechanically inclined? If you can do your own work then you might chance a cayman. Or maybe get a normal dd and something a little older and more fun like a 2nd or 3rd gen Supra or an MR2 or look for a deal on something interesting in your local want ads, craiglist or auto trader.

And you say you won't mod it, but if you go to meets and drive some of the modded cars you might change your mind, Just a few tweeks can really change the behavior of the car.


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Thanks everybody. Not sure I'm any closer to making a decision, maybe even more unsure now. I think I'll probably buy the best deal in the end.

I kinda feel like the high maintenance may be offset a bit when comparing with a newer car depreciating more(for a Corvette, maybe not a Porsche). I actually also considered keeping my DD and getting an older 996 just for fun. Their cheap enough(under 20k with IMS replaced). But for 20k I can almost get the Cayman that's much newer and probably a better choice for a DD.

I used to do all my own maintenance. Have rebuilt bikes from bottom up, rebuilt a T350 years ago in a truck, etc. Was really into 4X4s for years. Honestly, I don't want to deal with that anymore.

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Old 12-09-2016, 10:07 PM   #17
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Get the corvette. Just... do it. It will be a more rewarding experience. Especially if you have never had a sports car.
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Old 12-10-2016, 12:02 PM   #18
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FYI the Cayman is like a BRZ but better in every way. If you can afford the Cayman get it over the BRZ.
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Old 12-10-2016, 01:05 PM   #19
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If you're buying a sports car because you're getting old, I highly recommend the Corvette.
LOL... I remember when I used to think of folks who were 40 as "old." Then I hit 40, and I STILL felt like I was 24. I'm way past 40, and I can unequivocally state that 40 is nowhere NEAR "getting old."
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Old 12-10-2016, 01:07 PM   #20
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If you're buying a sports car because you're getting old, I highly recommend the Corvette.
Why? What is your reasoning for this?
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Old 12-10-2016, 01:45 PM   #21
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I would go with the corvette for sure. You cant beat the power and noise of that V8, plus corvettes (minus the zr1 and z06) have the removable top witch is a bonus. Also, if you come from riding bikes, im sure your going to want something fast.
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Old 12-11-2016, 01:21 AM   #23
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drove a 987.2 cayman today...

interior is mehh AF. feels so old. really a pretty plasticky car. REALLY. went in sat in a new 86 immediately after, and MANNN..the Twin is a nice place to be, for a coupe.

987 "felt" good, steering and all. PDK is garbage. steering wheel "paddles" are garbage. steering and brakes felt wonderful.

long story short...not sure if worth the money and headache..at all.


o yea. drove a nismo 370Z as well. THE worst shifter/clutch of any car ive ever driven. old 350s/G35s werent near this bad. a bunch of torque but just not usable because all the controls/inputs are terrible.


BRZ it stays.
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Old 12-11-2016, 08:53 AM   #24
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interior is mehh AF. feels so old. really a pretty plasticky car. REALLY. went in sat in a new 86 immediately after, and MANNN..the Twin is a nice place to be, for a coupe.

987 "felt" good, steering and all. PDK is garbage. steering wheel "paddles" are garbage. steering and brakes felt wonderful.

long story short...not sure if worth the money and headache..at all.


o yea. drove a nismo 370Z as well. THE worst shifter/clutch of any car ive ever driven. old 350s/G35s werent near this bad. a bunch of torque but just not usable because all the controls/inputs are terrible.


BRZ it stays.
I drive a 2011 328 RWD 6 Spd with M-sport and my only regret is waiting this long on life to get one. I even got invited to M-track day this summer and drove EVERY M car they make (except convertibles) and I can honestly say my car handles very close the an M.

Then last summer I picked up a 2013 BRZ for my son and MAN this car is a BLAST to drive! It's a go kart. I LOVE it. Add a second car or toy, I wouldn't hesitate one second. And I love how cheap and raw and basic the car is. Every switch is precise, no frills, etc. Old fashioned hvac controls feel like they will work forever.

I took it on my first long day trip and was surprised how comfortable it was. And 39 mpg was a pleasant surprise. Sure, back seat room is minimal, but who cares in this conversation.

Plus, my son gets more looks and compliments on it that you will with a Vette or Cayman because most don't know what it is. My wife thinks it's a baby Ferrari.

Get a used BRZ. Enjoy it. When you're ready to sell, you won't get as hurt as the other two imo.

PS Glad it was a MIS-diagnosis.
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Out of your choices I would go Cayman hands down, but I'm also able to do all my own work so that takes a lot of the financial headache of owning one of those away.

If I were you I'd strongly consider a Miata. There's ridiculously fun cars, only reason I swapped to an 86 is because it wasn't quite practical enough for my daily.
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Out of your choices I would go Cayman hands down, but I'm also able to do all my own work so that takes a lot of the financial headache of owning one of those away.

If I were you I'd strongly consider a Miata. There's ridiculously fun cars, only reason I swapped to an 86 is because it wasn't quite practical enough for my daily.

Theres an indy porsche shop thats does Vlogs on youtube of them fixing porsches. They have all these homegrown techniques they honed through the years that put the original called-for procedures to shame.Really fascinating watch. "Do my own work" would appear to take on a different meaning when referring to porsche.
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987 "felt" good, steering and all. PDK is garbage. steering wheel "paddles" are garbage. steering and brakes felt wonderful.

long story short...not sure if worth the money and headache..at all.
Why did you think PDK was garbage? Do you mean you just didn't enjoy it as much as manual? It's difficult to argue the PDK is garbage when it's the best dual clutch out there.

The "paddles" on the base steering is stupid, you really have to step up to the sport steering wheel to get the nice paddles.
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This decision is so much personal preference, its not even funny.

OP, what vettes and caymans are you looking at. Price range/year/equipment level. There is no correct answer, but the arguements for each car are very fluid depending on how you would answer the above.

I have owned 3 987s and 1 981. I have also owned 3 BRZs. My only vette to own (i have tracked others) was an 03 Z06. I could share a lot with you, but would likely only muddy your decision. But share the above info, and what you find the most fun about driving and cars, then maybe we can make some good points for you.

Good news is, this is a great problem to have and there is no wrong choice.
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