follow ft86club on our blog, twitter or facebook.
FT86CLUB
Ft86Club
Speed By Design
Register Garage Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community - FT86CLUB > Technical Topics > Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing

Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing Relating to suspension, chassis, and brakes. Sponsored by 949 Racing.


User Tag List

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-17-2018, 05:34 PM   #659
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,882
Thanks: 5,665
Thanked 5,802 Times in 3,297 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Which pads have you guys tried?
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline  
Old 09-17-2018, 05:37 PM   #660
cruizin01
Senior Member
 
cruizin01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: 13' BRZ
Location: Cbus Ohio
Posts: 210
Thanks: 13
Thanked 49 Times in 37 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
Which pads have you guys tried?
BP20's. PF R4S. And one other I can't remember.

I put my stock brakes on yesterday with the same r4s pad and its so much nicer to drive without the noise.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
cruizin01 is offline  
Old 09-17-2018, 06:02 PM   #661
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,882
Thanks: 5,665
Thanked 5,802 Times in 3,297 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cruizin01 View Post
BP20's. PF R4S. And one other I can't remember.

I put my stock brakes on yesterday with the same r4s pad and its so much nicer to drive without the noise.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
I will probably eventually just pull the BP10's that I have and run some organic pads on the street then swap them for autocross or for track days. I don't do enough racing to justify leaving the BP10's on, and I doubt I will need them for aggressive canyon drives. I have been considering some ceramic pads too. I figure the larger size has something to do with the noise, but it is probably mostly due to semi-metallic compounds on the street/track hybrid pads.
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline  
Old 09-17-2018, 06:57 PM   #662
cruizin01
Senior Member
 
cruizin01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: 13' BRZ
Location: Cbus Ohio
Posts: 210
Thanks: 13
Thanked 49 Times in 37 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
I will probably eventually just pull the BP10's that I have and run some organic pads on the street then swap them for autocross or for track days. I don't do enough racing to justify leaving the BP10's on, and I doubt I will need them for aggressive canyon drives. I have been considering some ceramic pads too. I figure the larger size has something to do with the noise, but it is probably mostly due to semi-metallic compounds on the street/track hybrid pads.
imo, its not the pad compound or the size. Ive ran these r4s pads on many other cars with zero noise, ever! Ive ran them on cayenne brembos on my gti that had a significantly larger pad size as well. I think its more related to the caliper structure? Lack of dampening maybe?

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
cruizin01 is offline  
Old 09-17-2018, 08:24 PM   #663
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,882
Thanks: 5,665
Thanked 5,802 Times in 3,297 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cruizin01 View Post
imo, its not the pad compound or the size. Ive ran these r4s pads on many other cars with zero noise, ever! Ive ran them on cayenne brembos on my gti that had a significantly larger pad size as well. I think its more related to the caliper structure? Lack of dampening maybe?

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Porsche felt it necessary to educate owners with this video, and they say size is a contributing factor:



These are Superlight calipers so maybe that matters.
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline  
Old 09-17-2018, 09:39 PM   #664
cruizin01
Senior Member
 
cruizin01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: 13' BRZ
Location: Cbus Ohio
Posts: 210
Thanks: 13
Thanked 49 Times in 37 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Good video, I still stand by my comments.

In my experience the larger pads many times have weights attached. I expect this helps with vibrations/noise. So yes pad design/size play a factor. But a properly designed caliper and pad setup shouldnt have nearly the noise this wilwood setup has regardless of size.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
cruizin01 is offline  
Old 09-18-2018, 01:38 AM   #665
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,882
Thanks: 5,665
Thanked 5,802 Times in 3,297 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by cruizin01 View Post
Good video, I still stand by my comments.

In my experience the larger pads many times have weights attached. I expect this helps with vibrations/noise. So yes pad design/size play a factor. But a properly designed caliper and pad setup shouldnt have nearly the noise this wilwood setup has regardless of size.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
Do you know if the other kits have noise too like the OEM Brembos on the performance package, STI Brembos, Stoptechs, or AP Racing?
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline  
Old 09-18-2018, 07:21 AM   #666
cruizin01
Senior Member
 
cruizin01's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Drives: 13' BRZ
Location: Cbus Ohio
Posts: 210
Thanks: 13
Thanked 49 Times in 37 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
I don't have first hand experience with those kits on these cars but i expect any of the oem kits to be quiet with street pads. Ive used other oem upgraded/swapped factory calipers on other brands with no issues. Ive been around many different factory brembo cars with no issues.

CSG says the street pads on their brembo kit are quiet. So I'm either going with their kit or AP.

Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
cruizin01 is offline  
Old 09-18-2018, 04:21 PM   #667
TheBRZsKnees
Senior Member
 
TheBRZsKnees's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Drives: 2014 BRZ
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 186
Thanks: 185
Thanked 44 Times in 36 Posts
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Garage
Loosening the e-brake helped the rear heat issue significantly. They run only slightly hotter than the fronts now, if at all.

Brakes feel good, and I'm not having issues with noise except during the occasional hard stop.
__________________
TheBRZsKnees is offline  
Old 09-18-2018, 05:11 PM   #668
ajc209
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: GT86 Cosworth
Location: UK
Posts: 753
Thanks: 361
Thanked 270 Times in 188 Posts
Mentioned: 9 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
I've got the AP/Cosworth 350mm kit on my 86. It's quiet as a mouse utilising a caliper designed to be quiet and street friendly.

Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
ajc209 is offline  
Old 09-21-2018, 02:49 AM   #669
Pointmutation
Senior Member
 
Pointmutation's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Drives: 2016 ZC6
Location: 808
Posts: 236
Thanks: 119
Thanked 155 Times in 92 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
This past month I’ve been daily driving 2-3x farther per week and carving through my mountain much less (only a few times this month compared to 3-5x/wk normally) and now I hear squeelling once or twice a day.

I’m on BP10’s. Normally when I start hearing the rare squeal I know I need to bed them in again or just do a mountain run with some aggressive braking. Takes care of it for a while. I didn’t buy a bbk for daily driving reasons. And I would hate for unsprung weight to be added to just help with some squeal.
__________________
Pointmutation is offline  
Old 09-22-2018, 11:59 AM   #670
RFB
Senior Member
 
RFB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Drives: FRS
Location: Canada
Posts: 936
Thanks: 145
Thanked 422 Times in 289 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pointmutation View Post
This past month I’ve been daily driving 2-3x farther per week and carving through my mountain much less (only a few times this month compared to 3-5x/wk normally) and now I hear squeelling once or twice a day.

I’m on BP10’s. Normally when I start hearing the rare squeal I know I need to bed them in again or just do a mountain run with some aggressive braking. Takes care of it for a while. I didn’t buy a bbk for daily driving reasons. And I would hate for unsprung weight to be added to just help with some squeal.
Huge sprung weight savings from the superlightweight caliper option is worth it !
(I'm old and losin my hi frequency hearing daily LOL !)

RFB is offline  
Old 09-27-2018, 01:38 AM   #671
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,882
Thanks: 5,665
Thanked 5,802 Times in 3,297 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Does anybody have any options on the solid rotors versus two piece rotors in terms of sound? I didn’t know if the aluminum center resonated differently.
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline  
Old 09-29-2018, 12:29 AM   #672
Irace86.2.0
Senior Member
 
Irace86.2.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Drives: Q5 + BRZ + M796
Location: Santa Rosa, CA
Posts: 7,882
Thanks: 5,665
Thanked 5,802 Times in 3,297 Posts
Mentioned: 70 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Am I confused, or are the prices wack on these products?

I bought the Stage II kit for $979 a long time ago, so I was checking out the two-piece rotors which I can get as a pair for $790. Together that would be $1769 for a front BBK with a spare pair of rotors...

The Stage IV kit is $1895, which comes with the two-piece rotors... so yea, it is more expensive than purchasing the products separately, and comes with less stuff, specifically less a pair of one-piece rotors.

Again, am I missing something? Does this make no sense at all?
__________________
My Build | K24 Turbo Swap | *K24T BRZ SOLD*
Irace86.2.0 is offline  
 
Closed Thread

Tags
big brake kit, competition, track

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
AP Racing brake systems in development track_warrior Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 872 09-17-2017 07:43 PM
Megan Racing Coilovers - Street / Track / EZ STREET - Starting at $699 Shipped GuerillaRacing Brakes, Suspension, Chassis 149 05-12-2015 05:53 PM
AP Racing Factory Big Brake Kit, NOT Competition Lonergt Suspension | Chassis | Brakes -- Sponsored by 949 Racing 0 08-25-2013 04:51 PM
Official street racing thread. All street racing goes here! bkblitzed Off-Topic Lounge [WARNING: NO POLITICS] 8 07-19-2013 11:31 AM
Essex/AP Racing Competition Brake System in Development JRitt Brakes, Suspension, Chassis 1 06-14-2012 01:32 PM


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.

Garage vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.