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Old 09-14-2012, 03:24 PM   #57
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Honda has given up on the enthusiasts, so i have given up on them
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Old 09-14-2012, 06:48 PM   #58
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Honda - The Power of Dreams

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Old 09-14-2012, 09:14 PM   #59
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HONDA will ALWAYS be HONDA! They were never a threat and never will be a threat. Those guys are in class of their own some where in the 1990 still. smh. nun here to stress about!
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:20 PM   #60
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Figure once a concept car is shown, wait 18-24 months for a production version to come to market. We have a while to wait before competition from Honda.
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Old 09-14-2012, 09:33 PM   #61
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Yeah people are always surprised when I tell them that. They ask me why I didn't buy a BMW or Lexus instead of my *gasp* Scion. They don't get that I like cheap, fun cars that I can modify and track without worrying too much.

Hard concept to grasp I guess...
25k! cheap? not so much,but i understand your point! well taken!
someone got to pay for all that development cost!
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:06 AM   #62
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25k! cheap? not so much,but i understand your point! well taken!
someone got to pay for all that development cost!
Nah you're right, I think that's a fair point. I probably should have said "relatively" cheap (as compared against the sport-luxury brands -- BMW, Porsche, etc.; or for instance, against the average price of a car in America, which I believe is about $30k now )
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Old 09-16-2012, 01:47 AM   #63
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compared to those 'high rollers"? yes! i would say you are right "relatively"
cheap!.it is probably one of the best values on the market,but it isn't exactly cheap,not at
25 k a copy it's not!.. it's STILL a "reach" for a lot of people!..just sayin'
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Old 09-16-2012, 02:18 AM   #64
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I don't think Honda has any interest in building a performance oriented car or even one that is "fun to drive". I have a 2007 Civic and it's good reliable transportation, but it's a soul crushing appliance..
Man that right there deserves a

After my 97Itr on spoonsw388s i didnt think i would ever be happier, that thing was a beast, and way ahead of its time, but it needed another 15k worth of goodies till i was happy and i realized it would be better spent on a supra project and a downpayment for an frs....

I couldnt be happier although i still hold a small hope for a honda comeback....
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Even if Honda began a new RWD sports car project tomorrow, you wouldn't see a car available on lots for 28-36 months...don't hold your breath
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Old 09-16-2012, 03:33 AM   #66
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Honda still makes kick ass bikes:
They also know how to make a great moped. their cars are very dull though.
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Old 09-16-2012, 09:40 AM   #67
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They lost their edge after 2010, they have no wow cars! 2012 is one of the worst cars on the market. The new accord has a genesis sedan 2009 rear end but awful interior. Their cars are now dull.
Says the guy with a genesis coupe

Honda doesn't need to build another s2000, they make more $$ selling accords and civics.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:17 AM   #68
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Says the guy with a genesis coupe

Honda doesn't need to build another s2000, they make more $$ selling accords and civics.
And Toyata didn't need to build this car since they make their money off everything else they sell.
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Says the guy with a genesis coupe

Honda doesn't need to build another s2000, they make more $$ selling accords and civics.
Disagree. They need to build a genuine "purist" sports car to attract the sport compact market to help draw attention to their Accords and Civics.

Of all the "typical sedans/hatchbacks", it's frustrating to know that a Mazda3 is more fun than a Honda Civic to drive.

The Altima is quickly catching up to the Accord, even though the latest model Accord has surprisingly accurate steering for a "beige" sedan, and the automatic transmission will hold its revs just for that extra couple tenths of a second before shifting.
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