2012 Mazda RX-9 ??? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Franisco · 10-18-2009, 08:10 PM

There's a chance that the new generation RX is going to be shown at the TMS in 2 days. Could this be competition for the 86, and would you consider buying it over the 86 if it had a good spec sheet?

MR2fan · 10-18-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franisco

There's a chance that the new generation RX is going to be shown at the TMS in 2 days. Could this be competition for the 86, and would you consider buying it over the 86 if it had a good spec sheet?

Really.... this is the first I've heard of it possibly being shown at TMS. Any rumors at all about specs or other details?

Shadowsong6 · 10-18-2009, 10:25 PM

The RX rumors are almost as on again off again as the FT86 was before it finally broke cover, but no, I'd much rather have my 86 than an RX, never really been a fan of Mazdas.

Franisco · 10-18-2009, 11:12 PM

http://www.7tune.com/rx-7-concept-ma...yo-motor-show/

White Comet · 10-19-2009, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franisco

There's a chance that the new generation RX is going to be shown at the TMS in 2 days. Could this be competition for the 86, and would you consider buying it over the 86 if it had a good spec sheet?

Competitor for the Z is more likely. No way a new RX comes in at the toyobaru's price point.

#87 · 10-19-2009, 12:13 PM

To be quite honest I am looking for a car that has excellent handling, adequate speed, and a low price (around 25k). Something I can thrash and when I crash it I won't think the world has ended. I am loving the FT86 because it appears it will be exactly what I'm looking for although it is too early to tell now if it will still be appealing on release.

If something comes out that will be a better performer at the same price point I wouldn't hesitate to get it. But I doubt very much there will be anything that can compete with the new 86, at least initially.

Jokem · 10-19-2009, 12:39 PM

I would still stick with the FT86 in it's naturally aspirated form. It would be quick enough on the straight line (nothing special but you can have all the fun you want @ legal speeds), would be great around the corners, and great on gas.

If you take it to the track, the slower acceleration and great handling characteristics (I would argue) would teach you more than a faster car due to the fact that keeping your momentum in to and out of corners would be paramount to driving the FT86 quickly around a track.

Franisco · 10-19-2009, 01:42 PM

I guess White Comet is probably right; if they decide to go back to the same formula as the FD, a twin-turbo or single-turbo rotary will probably not be in the same bracket.
Jokem, while I agree you can learn a lot from a car like that (i.e. Miata), I always would rather have a little everyday passing power. This is where the different engine options should come in. Lower 150-220 hp for you, and 280-320 for blowing eurotuners into the grass.

Ground N Pound · 10-19-2009, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by White Comet

Competitor for the Z is more likely. No way a new RX comes in at the toyobaru's price point.

Totally agree. Will still be interesting to see how they resurrect the RX-7. No doubt it'll end up being bigger and heavier than the original

Does this mean the end of the RX-8?

RWD_only · 10-20-2009, 02:41 PM

Actually Mazda is pretty good at keep cars on a diet. The current mazda2 is lighter than the previous generation and if the RX-9 is more of a GT than the 7 could be around 2800 lbs (FD curb weight).

MR2fan · 10-20-2009, 03:51 PM

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/20/r...g-on-new-rx-7/

Some new info on RX-7

Franisco · 10-20-2009, 04:34 PM

"higher interior quality" = Fat
It's nice to see a confirmation. I'd like to see some FI on that 1.6.
Sequential twin set-up

Ground N Pound · 10-20-2009, 07:22 PM

I don't have high hopes for the styling of it. Recent mazdas have really taken a bad turn in terms of styling. They've gone overboard with those fenders and "movement while standing" styling in all their car's lines.

Hoyitzallan · 10-24-2009, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MR2fan

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/20/r...g-on-new-rx-7/

Some new info on RX-7

Niice...looking forward to it!

10-18-2009, 08:10 PM	#1
Franisco Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: D31a Location: 360 Posts: 502 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2012 Mazda RX-9 ??? There's a chance that the new generation RX is going to be shown at the TMS in 2 days. Could this be competition for the 86, and would you consider buying it over the 86 if it had a good spec sheet?

10-19-2009, 12:39 PM	#7
Jokem Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2006 RX8 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would still stick with the FT86 in it's naturally aspirated form. It would be quick enough on the straight line (nothing special but you can have all the fun you want @ legal speeds), would be great around the corners, and great on gas. If you take it to the track, the slower acceleration and great handling characteristics (I would argue) would teach you more than a faster car due to the fact that keeping your momentum in to and out of corners would be paramount to driving the FT86 quickly around a track. Last edited by Jokem; 10-19-2009 at 12:39 PM. Reason: typo

10-20-2009, 03:51 PM	#11
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10-18-2009, 10:25 PM	#3
Shadowsong6 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 2014 Ford Mustang Location: Conroe, Texas Posts: 134 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The RX rumors are almost as on again off again as the FT86 was before it finally broke cover, but no, I'd much rather have my 86 than an RX, never really been a fan of Mazdas.

10-18-2009, 11:12 PM	#4
Franisco Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: D31a Location: 360 Posts: 502 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	http://www.7tune.com/rx-7-concept-ma...yo-motor-show/

10-19-2009, 12:13 PM	#6
#87 I usually post drunk Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: BRZ Location: NY Posts: 1,487 Thanks: 15 Thanked 490 Times in 231 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	To be quite honest I am looking for a car that has excellent handling, adequate speed, and a low price (around 25k). Something I can thrash and when I crash it I won't think the world has ended. I am loving the FT86 because it appears it will be exactly what I'm looking for although it is too early to tell now if it will still be appealing on release. If something comes out that will be a better performer at the same price point I wouldn't hesitate to get it. But I doubt very much there will be anything that can compete with the new 86, at least initially.

10-19-2009, 01:42 PM	#8
Franisco Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: D31a Location: 360 Posts: 502 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I guess White Comet is probably right; if they decide to go back to the same formula as the FD, a twin-turbo or single-turbo rotary will probably not be in the same bracket. Jokem, while I agree you can learn a lot from a car like that (i.e. Miata), I always would rather have a little everyday passing power. This is where the different engine options should come in. Lower 150-220 hp for you, and 280-320 for blowing eurotuners into the grass.

10-20-2009, 02:41 PM	#10
RWD_only Lurks 'n stuff Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: 1994 Mazda Miata Location: Eugene/Sherwood, OR Posts: 112 Thanks: 99 Thanked 13 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Actually Mazda is pretty good at keep cars on a diet. The current mazda2 is lighter than the previous generation and if the RX-9 is more of a GT than the 7 could be around 2800 lbs (FD curb weight).

10-20-2009, 04:34 PM	#12
Franisco Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: D31a Location: 360 Posts: 502 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	"higher interior quality" = Fat It's nice to see a confirmation. I'd like to see some FI on that 1.6. Sequential twin set-up

10-20-2009, 07:22 PM	#13
Ground N Pound Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: S2K Location: Bethesda Maryland Posts: 74 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't have high hopes for the styling of it. Recent mazdas have really taken a bad turn in terms of styling. They've gone overboard with those fenders and "movement while standing" styling in all their car's lines.

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