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Old 06-07-2019, 03:02 PM   #253
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How close is this to being competed? I am tempted to start buying an engine and transmission to start refreshing.
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Old 07-10-2019, 01:20 PM   #254
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7/10/19 Update:

I held in my hands, yesterday, a fully welded up prototype version of the K swap oil pan. The next step is scanning it into CAD and ordering the aluminum to be cut. After I have a complete one, we will work on baffling and once that is complete we will start a pre-ordering process and put them into production. Estimated timeline, 1 month.

Here is all the info on the pans.

-We measured its capacity. It looks like it will hold just over 5 quarts (factory spec) and will not hang below the subframe level.

-It will clear the stock subframe completely without modification with our mounts

-It will be built from sheet aluminum that has been cut with a water jet and hand tig welded to perfection. It will use the stock oil drain plug thread pitch, the stock engine side flange pattern, and fit any K series engine.

-It will have baffles that will reduce sloshing and starvation for both front and rear. These baffles will be based around an RSX Type S oil pump. This pump is the best for high RPM and is much smaller than the TSX picktup assembly.

RSX Type S looks like this:



The stock TSX pump looks like this:



You can see why we think the RSX pump is better!

So while we are on the subject, here is my current swap guide that I'm putting out there for the parts we will have available:

1. Order a K24A2 engine with low miles. We have gotten 2 from 2006 Acura TSX, these are 10.5:1 compression. CRV are K24A1 and are 9.6:1 if you want to do boost later maybe or just get a good deal. K24A4 is Honda Element 9.7:1, K24A8 is Honda Accord 9.7:1, and theres many more. Here's a good guide on Hybrid Racing: https://www.hybrid-racing.com/blogs/...ne-build-guide

2. Replace the timing chain, timing chain guides, and oil pump with the RSX Type S pump. While you're at it, do the valve cover gasket and anything else that looks sketchy or oily.

3. You're going to need a different intake manifold. There are 2 options, either get an adapter plate and do an S2000 intake manifold. Or just get a Skunk2 Manifold and flip the plenum around. I would do the Skunk manifold because its not too much more money and its a nicer piece.

They come like this:



But then you can remove the plenum and flip it to face forward like this:



We sell them on SwapYour86.com here: https://www.pureautomotiveperformanc...take-manifold/

Using this plenum requires a different water pump setup. I've browsed alot of different options and so far the easiest one is this one:



This is an all in one, belt routing, alternator mounting, PS deleting solution.

This setup is for Non - AC, and for now, to 100% honest, I don't plan to figure out an AC setup until we get the rest of the swap parts done. It is 100% possible, but for now I'm taking the path of least resistance.

I haven't gotten this far yet, but I also think you need one of these: http://k-tuned.3dcartstores.com/K24-...ter_p_480.html in order to run that manifold easily.

The last thing to address is the water housing on the back of the head. The factory one is too close to the firewall, so you'll need one of these:
https://tractuff.com/products/tractu...ive-k-swap-rbb

This seems to be the preferred method of routing all the coolant hoses for RWD.



I think I'm going to tinker with one of these to see if its the best solution for the cooling system, looks promising and would prevent having to make a custom radiator fill neck into the coolant hoses. I'm skeptical of clearance for the clutch master cylinder though.

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Honda's are great because there's already sooo many good parts out there for this stuff!



Sorry for the information dump, but I think this is vital information that people need to know going into the swap, things like this are going to make the swap so easy compared to any other we've ever done before.

As always, thanks for your patience, and I hope I've been helpful to you!

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Old 07-10-2019, 02:22 PM   #255
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Not sure on your local capabilities but a laser will be much faster than the water jet. The newer lasers cut aluminum just fine
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Old 07-10-2019, 02:40 PM   #256
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Awesome information, more pumped than ever for this
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Old 07-10-2019, 02:56 PM   #257
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Sorry for the information dump, but I think this is vital information that people need to know going into the swap, things like this are going to make the swap so easy compared to any other we've ever done before.
Does that mean the quote for a fully functioning K swapped car would be less than the ~$32k I've seen you guys quote for a 2J? **hopeful thinking
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Old 07-10-2019, 03:30 PM   #258
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Does that mean the quote for a fully functioning K swapped car would be less than the ~$32k I've seen you guys quote for a 2J? **hopeful thinking
Easily. Quick rough numbers example:

JDM K24A $950
S2k Trans $1100
Adapter Kit With Flywheel $900
Intake Manifold $800
Misc Adapters $500
Water Pump Kit $800
Rad Hoses $200
Fuel Lines $400
Injectors $500
Intake $300
Header $1700
Oil Pump and Chain Stuff $500
Mounts $450
Clutch $500
Driveshaft $600
Shifter $600
Oil Pan $900
Wiring Kit With MoTeC $5500

This plus figure in another $800 in who knows what else and you're at $18,000 in parts.

So With Labor and All I could see a K swap turn key being well under $25k

2JZ and LS Swaps are all easily over $30k, I think we're averaging $32,000.

*Disclaimer, this is not a quote, this is no where near exact, this is something I wrote in about 2 minutes just to give those wondering an idea of how much goes into a swap, this is completely ball park stuff.
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Kmiata also make an intake manifold.


https://kmiata.com/products/kmiata-rwd-intake-manifold
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Kmiata also make an intake manifold.


https://kmiata.com/products/kmiata-rwd-intake-manifold
This is the one I planned on using if I end up K Swapped.
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Where can we get a driveshaft for the swap? Or is the stock modded to fit?
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Kmiata also make an intake manifold.


https://kmiata.com/products/kmiata-rwd-intake-manifold

Didn't know that, looks pretty cool. The only difference between that and the Skunk one looks like runner length and the ability to change plenum size. But another thing is the throttle body flange. Looks like they made it to accept a B series throttle body. I think the bolt pattern is different for that vs a K24, so you would need an adapter to use the electronic throtle body. Looks like another good option though.
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Where can we get a driveshaft for the swap? Or is the stock modded to fit?
We just measure for them in the car and have a local driveshaft place make them. If there's enough interest I can have multiples made.
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Easily. Quick rough numbers example:

JDM K24A $950
S2k Trans $1100
Adapter Kit With Flywheel $900
Intake Manifold $800
Misc Adapters $500
Water Pump Kit $800
Rad Hoses $200
Fuel Lines $400
Injectors $500
Intake $300
Header $1700
Oil Pump and Chain Stuff $500
Mounts $450
Clutch $500
Driveshaft $600
Shifter $600
Oil Pan $900
Wiring Kit With MoTeC $5500

This plus figure in another $800 in who knows what else and you're at $18,000 in parts.

So With Labor and All I could see a K swap turn key being well under $25k

2JZ and LS Swaps are all easily over $30k, I think we're averaging $32,000.

*Disclaimer, this is totally a 100% quote, this is exact, this is something I wrote in about 2 days just to give those wondering an exact cost of how much goes into a swap, this isn't just ball park stuff.
YES! AT LAST!!!!

totally kidding, btw.


edit: Damn, I've been laser-focused on saving up for the 2J swap...but ~7k less for a 2.4L build is tempting...
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Kmiata also make an intake manifold.


https://kmiata.com/products/kmiata-rwd-intake-manifold
the kmiata guys are amazing. and their cars are amazing. I always see them around track beating the hell out of these k motors with no problems.
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I had the prototype rough draft in my hands yesterday, its real. We are working on the shape to clear everything and how to baffle it properly to prevent oiling issues. I will tell you this, do yourself a favor and install an RSX Type S Oil Pump, the fitment and function is much better than the stock TSX one.
Already done. Nice to talking to y'all on the phone yestrday, it helped a ton!
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