Do I need hub centering rings for my new wheels? - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Enterthe · 04-22-2019, 01:54 PM

I’ve searched around already but can’t find a solid source for information. I purchased a set of Enkei PF05s which have a 75mm center bore. Other wheels I have purchased in the past have come with the centering rings but these do not, and I’m not finding centering rings in the exact 75mm->56.1mm size I need. TIA!

BigTuna · 04-22-2019, 02:05 PM

You don't NEED them, as the lug nuts are tapered to center the wheels. I would suggest them if you're doing anything other than daily driving (i.e. AutoX, Track days, etc.), or for peace of mind.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14018

https://www.newprovisionsracing.com/...b-centric-ring
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HUB-CENTRIC...-/292186400431

HaXx · 04-22-2019, 02:10 PM

I literally just put brand new ts10 rims on yesterday, and for some reason I had to remove 3 of the hub rings for the wheels to go on, and I'm positive I had the correct size rings. only one wheel fit on with a ring. you might as well get them, if they dont go on with them, oh well, if they do, even better.

Tokay444 · 04-22-2019, 03:12 PM

Yes.

JoeC · 04-22-2019, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enterthe

I’ve searched around already but can’t find a solid source for information. I purchased a set of Enkei PF05s which have a 75mm center bore. Other wheels I have purchased in the past have come with the centering rings but these do not, and I’m not finding centering rings in the exact 75mm->56.1mm size I need. TIA!

You don't need them but they certainly make wheel\tire swaps a lot faster. I don't have them on my daily wheels but I do on my track wheels because they're so much more convenient when rotating wheels at the track. Whenever I put my daily wheels on (at the end of a track event) I just make sure to be very careful when snugging up the lugs to allow the wheel to center up.

rice_classic · 04-22-2019, 04:26 PM

Need? - no.

However, if your wheels are on/off relatively often they are a quality of life luxury as it makes putting your wheels on easier and your lug nuts have less centering work to do.

Yoshoobaroo · 04-22-2019, 05:42 PM

Yes you do. The lugs - while self centering and tapered - locate on a threaded feature, which have way looser tolerances than that hub surface.

Enterthe · 04-22-2019, 06:04 PM

Thanks so much for the info everyone, I went ahead and ordered some.

JoeC · 04-22-2019, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

Yes you do. The lugs - while self centering and tapered - locate on a threaded feature, which have way looser tolerances than that hub surface.

on one stud yes, but snugging all 5 down together centers the wheel it right up. it's a little slower to install but I promise, it works.

CSG Mike · 04-22-2019, 08:00 PM

You do not.

They are nice for taking stress off of your lugs and studs on initial tightening.

Feistyfrog · 04-24-2019, 07:29 PM

You don't need it but you should unless you are the only person who will remove/install your wheels and you know what you're doing.

I just got my new 86 ten days ago and the dealership took care of installing my own wheels prior to the delivery. They didn't want my rings because, "they are useless".

I ended up having huge vibrations over 100km/h because they screwed up the install (no pun intended). No big deal but it can't happen with some rings.

They are so cheap, it's a no brainer...

wparsons · 04-25-2019, 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeC

on one stud yes, but snugging all 5 down together centers the wheel it right up. it's a little slower to install but I promise, it works.

Even with rings or hubcentric wheels you should be doing that since they can be off center rotationally still.

04-22-2019, 01:54 PM	#1
Enterthe Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Drives: FR-S Location: Reno, NV Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Do I need hub centering rings for my new wheels? I’ve searched around already but can’t find a solid source for information. I purchased a set of Enkei PF05s which have a 75mm center bore. Other wheels I have purchased in the past have come with the centering rings but these do not, and I’m not finding centering rings in the exact 75mm->56.1mm size I need. TIA!

04-22-2019, 02:05 PM	#2
BigTuna Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Drives: 2013 WRB BRZ Location: Ohio Posts: 672 Thanks: 258 Thanked 477 Times in 275 Posts Mentioned: 4 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You don't NEED them, as the lug nuts are tapered to center the wheels. I would suggest them if you're doing anything other than daily driving (i.e. AutoX, Track days, etc.), or for peace of mind. http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14018 https://www.newprovisionsracing.com/...b-centric-ring https://www.ebay.com/itm/HUB-CENTRIC...-/292186400431 __________________ 2013 WRB "Build" Thread

04-22-2019, 04:26 PM	#6
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Need? - no. However, if your wheels are on/off relatively often they are a quality of life luxury as it makes putting your wheels on easier and your lug nuts have less centering work to do. __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

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Feistyfrog Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Drives: Toyota 86 2019 Location: Montréal Posts: 51 Thanks: 244 Thanked 48 Times in 25 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You don't need it but you should unless you are the only person who will remove/install your wheels and you know what you're doing. I just got my new 86 ten days ago and the dealership took care of installing my own wheels prior to the delivery. They didn't want my rings because, "they are useless". I ended up having huge vibrations over 100km/h because they screwed up the install (no pun intended). No big deal but it can't happen with some rings. They are so cheap, it's a no brainer...

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