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Old 03-27-2016, 09:56 PM   #4593
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Is the ST softer than stock? Typically a stiffer rear swaybar brings oversteer, and a stiffer front is more under steer... All things being equal and glossing over details... I'd not be surprised if you simply felt more confident and overdrove (front sway can definitely improve confidence.) Weird.
Typically. But these cars are MacPherson in the front, and will also roll a fair amount. There's an increased tendency to understeer, but you're also increasing the maximum grip up front by taming that roll and keeping your tires where they're supposed to be. The front camber curve leaves something to be desired. Depending on your driving style, ie: if you don't come into turns too hot, you may not notice a major change in the tendency to understeer, but you may notice an increased amount of maximum grip.
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Typically. But these cars are MacPherson in the front, and will also roll a fair amount. There's an increased tendency to understeer, but you're also increasing the maximum grip up front by taming that roll and keeping your tires where they're supposed to be. The front camber curve leaves something to be desired. Depending on your driving style, ie: if you don't come into turns too hot, you may not notice a major change in the tendency to understeer, but you may notice an increased amount of maximum grip.
Hah. I guess I assume a proper camber setting for the car... I was wondering whether to remove my swaybars today.
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Hah. I guess I assume a proper camber setting for the car... I was wondering whether to remove my swaybars today.
@Captain Snooze did it along with installing some top shelf dampers fitted with significantly higher rate springs. He loved it.
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There's more than one way to skin a cat.
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Typically. But these cars are MacPherson in the front, and will also roll a fair amount. There's an increased tendency to understeer, but you're also increasing the maximum grip up front by taming that roll and keeping your tires where they're supposed to be. The front camber curve leaves something to be desired. Depending on your driving style, ie: if you don't come into turns too hot, you may not notice a major change in the tendency to understeer, but you may notice an increased amount of maximum grip.
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@Captain Snooze did it along with installing some top shelf dampers fitted with significantly higher rate springs. He loved it.
There are pros & cons in removing a sway bar. Some swears that, it drive better without sway bar. Some say it drives better w sway bar.

Tbh, it's your preference. There's not exact answer for this. Test both & sweet how it goes.
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It sticks in my head because I would love to try it someday. It's waaaay down the road for me but when I do start messing with the suspension, It'll be along those lines.
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@Captain Snooze did it along with installing some top shelf dampers fitted with significantly higher rate springs. He loved it.
He also went back to his previous dampers with 6k/6k springs and kept the sway bars off. He noticed more roll but much preferred the independent suspension operation. Having said that he had the Eibach sways on f&r which are quite stiff.

Because compromise.
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There's more than one way to shave a pu$$y.
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It sticks in my head because I would love to try it someday.
At first read I thinking you wanted to skin a cat.
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Having said that he had the Eibach sways on f&r which are quite stiff.

Because compromise.
He had them on previously, or is he running them now?
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I know I shouldn't complain and whine because at least I have a job that pays decently but...

Think I'm slowly becoming saddened by the fact that due to how schedule is set up, I'm missing out on a lot of auto-x and regular drives that gets set up. Just a lot of the social outings, I have to say no due to work. ughhhh..

Work/life balance sucks.
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Have a job and have the money but not the time or don't have a job and have the time but not the money.

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Have a job and have the money but not the time or don't have a job and have the time but not the money.

Because compromise.
The time and the money..
The money and the power..
Minute after minute..
Hour after hour..
I'm 23 now but will I live to see 24?
The way things are going IDK...
Tell me why are we..
So blind to see..
The ones we hurt..
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