"My Dealer told me {insert dumb idea}" (was "Toyota/Subary Partnership Cancelled?")

[Flat Black VW]

At my shop we deal with a couple of Subaru dealerships, one of the sales managers at one of these dealerships was telling me he has 5 BRZ turbos on order for MY2014.

Salesmen are morons.

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW

At my shop we deal with a couple of Subaru dealerships, one of the sales managers at one of these dealerships was telling me he has 5 BRZ turbos on order for MY2014.

Salesmen are morons.

Sales lies keep getting funnier.

[kALMIGHTY]

My sales guy pointed at those and said "and those are the two superchargers this car comes with. pretty sweet, eh?"

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by kALMIGHTY

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My sales guy pointed at those and said "and those are the two superchargers this car comes with. pretty sweet, eh?"

you should play dumb and say 'wow, I didn't know they made superchargers powered off of the front wheels. Its pretty clever when you can get infinite pulley boost from the front wheels as opposed to parasitic loss from extra engine belt pulleys.'

And if the Subaru/Toyota partnership was 'cancelled', the twins would have been discontinued lol.

[Cheddar]

Originally Posted by utekineir

the salesman told me this car was fast

ROFL I went to one dealer where the salesmen told me that its a space ship!

I had my friend with a 600+whp ZR1 show up to show him what a real space ship sounds like.

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Cheddar

ROFL I went to one dealer where the salesmen told me that its a space ship!

I had my friend with a 600+whp ZR1 show up to show him what a real space ship sounds like.

Better still - drive up in a C7 - it does look a bit like an alien craft of some type.

[nalc]

I'm curious to see what the teaming agreement actually says. Is there a copy of it floating around the internet somewhere?

I've worked on similar agreements, and there's a lot of variety with how they work. It's almost certain that if this agreement were to end, the FA20 would as well, because I really doubt that Toyota would just give away their direct injection. Since the FA20T is available with Subaru direct injection in other Subaru models, I'd imagine that Subaru has full ownership of the rest of the engine design, but they might be paying royalties to Toyota depending on how the agreement works. Some teaming agreements are "Anything developed under it can be used by either company in the future", others are a lot more restrictive and require permission from (or royalties to) the other company for use of co-developed tech. There are also probably some specific pieces of technology that one company is retaining ownership of - i.e. Toyota bringing direct injection, Subaru bringing a Boxer layout. There's a whole world of patents and intellectual property that goes into something like this.

I'm also curious if this is a one-off teaming agreement, or if there are future plans for more Toyota-Subaru models.

[Cheddar]

Originally Posted by Sport-Tech

Better still - drive up in a C7 - it does look a bit like an alien craft of some type.

If I could only get my hands on one.....

[mikalem]

Originally Posted by kALMIGHTY

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My sales guy pointed at those and said "and those are the two superchargers this car comes with. pretty sweet, eh?"

Should have fired back, don't get the Whiteline turbo replacements, that squeak/pop badly! (On my second set, and your sales guy owes me a supercharger!)

[Flat Black VW]

Originally Posted by Brzetto

Sales lies keep getting funnier.

Its not like he was even lying to me to try to get a sale. Ive owned my car for over a year and he told me this a few days ago. Ive known him for a few years now from work. He honestly believes he will be getting 5 turbo BRZs in the next few months.

[King Tut]

Take anything you hear from a dealership with a Morton factory of salt.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by King Tut

anything you hear from a dealership is probably b.s.

ftfy

[Brzetto]

Originally Posted by Flat Black VW

Its not like he was even lying to me to try to get a sale. Ive owned my car for over a year and he told me this a few days ago. Ive known him for a few years now from work. He honestly believes he will be getting 5 turbo BRZs in the next few months.

Someone told him a fib, Subaru isn't going to make a turbo version.

[5th 86]

It be pretty dumb of toyota to end a partnership for a car thats actually doing well and saving scion, one year worth of cars probably wont recoupe 5 years development cost, and with subaru manufacturing them toyota probably only gets a small cut. Not sure about how sharing the tech will work after break up, cause i thought i read somewhere that bmw/toyota parntership will use some of the chassis for there up comming car but that could be bs from some writer... This partnership wont end not when toyot owns 16 percent of subie.

Shit someone put down some money on one of those turbo brzs, i dont know where he dealership is but i will paypal you the deposit money. I dont want the awd one though.