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Old 07-14-2013, 02:21 AM   #1
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"My Dealer told me {insert dumb idea}" (was "Toyota/Subary Partnership Cancelled?")

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Hey guys,

I was down at the dealer today and ended up ordering my BRZ (heck ya!). This particular one had already been ordered so I should get it in about a week or so. As we talked about timelines and deliveries, the sales guy let it slip that the partnership between Toyota and Subaru had been cancelled. He seemed pretty confident this was a done deal and also that Subaru was about to invest about US$400M in their Indiana plant.

Can anyone confirm this? He said it in a way that I thought it was public information ("I don't know if you've heard it but..."), so I felt comfortable posting it here. Hopefully this is not confidential information and I'm putting anyone in trouble... :X

Anyway, thought I'd bring up the discussion given that may affect future deliveries (MY14 and later) and *especially* availability (which could in turn affect pricing, etc).

Cheers
So, it sounded weird to me hence me asking here since I know everyone here is more knowledgeable than the salesman. The only reason why I thought it could be true is because 1) this was the first car salesman that I actually had a good experience with and was a car fan too and 2) he didn't have to tell me anything: at that point I had already "bought" the car; we were just chatting!

It seems to me this thread is now been hijacked, and that's for the best. It will now be called "Dealer told me {insert dumb idea here}"! :p

Thanks for the laughs, everyone! Keep 'em coming


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Old 07-14-2013, 02:28 AM   #2
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Dealerships don't know about anything like that. Take it with a pinch of salt.
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Did you buy your car from a crack house by any chance?
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I'm willing to bet he is just inferring that because Toyota and BMW are working on some conceptual stuff together. Because obviously Toyota can't work with Subaru and BMW at the same time, amirite?
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It's not a partnership. Toyota owns 16% of Subaru. For Toyota to end the partnership, they'd have to sell off their stake of the company, which would be very public knowledge.

Subaru is investing in the Indiana plant because they plan to start building Imprezas there, as well as more Toyota Camrys.

Toyota also had Subaru stop making their kei cars, and is replacing them with rebadged Daihatsus.

In other words, the "partnership" is not over.
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Old 07-14-2013, 02:47 AM   #6
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Hey guys,

I was down at the dealer today and ended up ordering my BRZ (heck ya!). This particular one had already been ordered so I should get it in about a week or so. As we talked about timelines and deliveries, the sales guy let it slip that the partnership between Toyota and Subaru had been cancelled. He seemed pretty confident this was a done deal and also that Subaru was about to invest about US$400M in their Indiana plant.

Can anyone confirm this? He said it in a way that I thought it was public information ("I don't know if you've heard it but..."), so I felt comfortable posting it here. Hopefully this is not confidential information and I'm putting anyone in trouble... :X

Anyway, thought I'd bring up the discussion given that may affect future deliveries (MY14 and later) and *especially* availability (which could in turn affect pricing, etc).

Cheers

Mu sales guy told me my auto was a dual clutch, dsg, and uses the same racing diff as the WRC STI, also that they come detuned from subaru because toyota asked them to..

Sooooo take what your salesman says with a grain of salt.. This type of info would be well blasted on every autobolg known to man, well before a salesman at a dealership would know about it
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dealer told me the car is 4WD. lol!! most of them dont know a thing about the twins.
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Mu sales guy told me my auto was a dual clutch, dsg, and uses the same racing diff as the WRC STI, also that they come detuned from subaru because toyota asked them to..

Sooooo take what your salesman says with a grain of salt.. This type of info would be well blasted on every autobolg known to man, well before a salesman at a dealership would know about it
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dealer told me the car is 4WD. lol!! most of them dont know a thing about the twins.
HAAHAHAHA This particular guy knew what he was talking and we actually had a good time talking about cars in general (we both also love BMWs).

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It's not a partnership. Toyota owns 16% of Subaru. For Toyota to end the partnership, they'd have to sell off their stake of the company, which would be very public knowledge.

Subaru is investing in the Indiana plant because they plan to start building Imprezas there, as well as more Toyota Camrys.

Toyota also had Subaru stop making their kei cars, and is replacing them with rebadged Daihatsus.

In other words, the "partnership" is not over.
Thanks for the info. Ya, we did talk about Toyota owning part of Subaru and I just assumed Toyota had sold (or was about to sell) their share.

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Dealerships don't know about anything like that. Take it with a pinch of salt.
That's a good point!



Thanks for the feedback guys... I guess it might've been just an uninformed rumour! :P

Carry on...
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my dealer told me my BRZ came with power seats...I still can't find the switch.

Take what they say with a BIG grain of salt!
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The dealership I take my car to for warranty work told me the auto BRZ comes with a dual clutch type auto transmission only. I have a manual BRZ, so that made them eat their words.

The same dealership also told me my old STI was a twin turbocharged 6 cylinder.

DEALERSHIPS KNOW EVERYTHING
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Most 6 year olds are more knowledgeable then half of the salesmen at stealerships, nuff said.
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A) I don't think your dealer has any idea.

B) I could see the possibility of Subaru wanting to end its SIA production for Toyota.

C) I cold also see Toyota maybe wanting to drop out of the BRZ deal if they thought they had a better product with BMW.

D) I don't think your dealer has any idea.
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That's the advantage of buying a BRZ in Australia, all of the process is done online with a fair queuing system (unlike Toyota).

Only the pickup done at dealer.
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the salesman told me this car was fast
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