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02-18-2013, 10:13 AM | #1 | |
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We Ask Toyota & Subaru about James May's Claim that Toyota Gets 90% of GT 86/FR-S/BRZ
We Ask Toyota and Subaru about James May's Claim that Toyota Gets 90% of GT 86/FR-S/BRZ Production
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02-18-2013, 11:17 AM | #2 |
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Sounds a little bit too skewed to Toyota, but they do way more volume than subaru
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Well someone has a sales thread up following the monthlies and iirc it's showing about a 5:1 ratio favouring Toyota/Scion... that's quite a ways from a 10:1 split.
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I suspect May's comment was UK specific, where the Subaru business as a whole is very low volume.
Actual sales figures which are published for the uk ( try howmanyleft ) I suspect would show a more extreme variation Toyota vs Subaru. BRZ is super rare in the UK.
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Pretty split ratio, I dont think any BRZ guys would be complaining.
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Here in NZ we only have 12 Subaru BRZ/s and over 100 86's at the moment. So the ratio may apply to us over here as well. The US market can be completely different and usually is to the rest of the world. Even before the car was produced, it was said Toyota would have the majority of the production, so while the exact ratio may vary from market to market, Toyota will still be getting more 86's than Subaru will BRZ's. |
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It is after all a toyota car.
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Well it was Toyota's idea and motivation that launched the project, but minus the injection system and their interior/exterior design, it's all Subaru, manufactured in Subaru's plant. In actual physical fact is really Subaru's car, with Toyota making design and injection contributions.
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and can we stop this "its a toyota" no "its a subaru." there simply arent facts suggesting these things. it was a mutual endeavor. using the factory it was made in as evidence is like giving construction workers the credit that architects deserve. |
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Agreed. But what we're really talking about is a branding issue. Same with our electronics. Sure they may be Apple iPhones, or Samsungs or what have you, but let's face it, they're really Foxconn phones!
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Transmission And Power Steering Are All Toyota Too. The Entire Concept Of Rear Drive, And Naturally Aspirated, All Toyota. Two Details Subaru Very Much Resisted At The Beginning.
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Every other day a thread goes to the Subaru vs. Toyota debate. Can't we grow up?
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