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Old 05-16-2013, 09:13 AM   #113
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It looks perfect in every other way, but it is now in my "offerings to the God's of speed" collection.
OT but, that is one of my favorite movies of all time.

World's Fastest Indian

It's a must-see for anyone, even if they're not into racing or motorcycles.
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Old 05-16-2013, 09:21 AM   #114
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The case in your transmission gets distorted due to the thrust loads caused by helical cut gears. The gear cluster will have a thrust bearing to take the load.

The attached picture is of a close ratio Ford TopLoader 4-speed cluster out of my racecar. You can see the radial stress cracks in the thrust surface of the cluster gear. It looks perfect in every other way, but it is now in my "offerings to the God's of speed" collection.
I had a 3 speed toploader in my old mustang with a 2nd gear whine that would curl your toes and increased with load. I wonder if it has the same issue
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we all have been for a pretty long time now :happy0180:


Just figured with the talk of a dyno run coming, that it would be posted. Bet that is going to upset some people...haha.
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OT but, that is one of my favorite movies of all time.

World's Fastest Indian

It's a must-see for anyone, even if they're not into racing or motorcycles.
Great movie. The salt flats and 200 mph are definitely on my bucket list.
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200 MPH was horrible. But I have a fascination with horrible movies. LOL
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Must see movies:

World's Fastest Indian
Dust to Glory
Senna
LeMans
Grand Prix
Bullet
Vanishing Point

I'm sure I missed some good ones. Now where can I buy a stage 1 Innovate twin screw for my FRS???
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Wow. I get back from vacation to yet another new, lengthy thread about this SC that still contains no dyno information. I enjoy your conspiracy theories, @2forme. Preparing to post lap times at Laguna Seca... why on earth would a company sit on the dyno results from the required tuning needed before such a track outing?

I understand there's not going to be a huge top end on this SC so the peak HP figure won't be that impressive. Fine, but give us some credit. Show us a dyno plot, Innovate, with a baseline so we can see the torque gains throughout the rev range. Nobody runs a car for track times without proper tuning. @Innovate Motorports, please allow these results to be shared. Thank you.
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you guys sound like a bunch of children.

Everyone on this forum approaches forced induction like black magic, between the displacement of the SC the already known VE of the motor and the redline of both the SC and the FA20 you can get a pretty good idea of what to expect, if you guys spent HALF the time you do stalking and badmouthing on this forum you would already know what the kit was going to offer. will it be an exact number? nope, but Dyno's aren't really worth much for the specific numbers they put out anyway.

You guys do this same BS on all the turbo threads, not understanding what even makes the kits different, or better, or worse. Component Quality should be the #1 concern in any of these kits. Fabricated part Quality and fitment is a very close second, yet I continue to see the actual quality kits get shrugged off because of the price points associated with real quality parts and the innovation and understanding to plan out a well fitting kit.

I understand the giddy nature of modding your first car, but why would you want the manufacturer to tell you what their product makes anyway, it's all so subjective, and you'll pick it apart and make accusations when a number finally comes down anyway.

Go read and understand the principles truths and myths behind SC and turbos and KNOW for yourself what will work best for YOU.
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What they know is a $3500 price tag that has been advertised since December 2012.
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I'm sure I missed some good ones. Now where can I buy a stage 1 Innovate twin screw for my FRS???
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you guys sound like a bunch of children.

Everyone on this forum approaches forced induction like black magic, between the displacement of the SC the already known VE of the motor and the redline of both the SC and the FA20 you can get a pretty good idea of what to expect, if you guys spent HALF the time you do stalking and badmouthing on this forum you would already know what the kit was going to offer. will it be an exact number? nope, but Dyno's aren't really worth much for the specific numbers they put out anyway.

You guys do this same BS on all the turbo threads, not understanding what even makes the kits different, or better, or worse. Component Quality should be the #1 concern in any of these kits. Fabricated part Quality and fitment is a very close second, yet I continue to see the actual quality kits get shrugged off because of the price points associated with real quality parts and the innovation and understanding to plan out a well fitting kit.

I understand the giddy nature of modding your first car, but why would you want the manufacturer to tell you what their product makes anyway, it's all so subjective, and you'll pick it apart and make accusations when a number finally comes down anyway.

Go read and understand the principles truths and myths behind SC and turbos and KNOW for yourself what will work best for YOU.

^^^This!!! Get off the internet and go read some real information. Get both of Corky Bell's books called "Supercharged" and "Turbocharged". They are well worth the money ($20?) and very easy to understand.

If you want approximate numbers for this kit, just look at the old school GC 2.5RS turbo kits. 230-250whp + same on torque. They're the same basic idea with high compression and low boost (5-8psi). None of those ever had E85 applied, so Robi's got a wider window to work with and crank in a bunch of timing. Even the drama is the same as it was then!
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Yeah, reading this should help
http://www.sprintex.com.au.cust.webi...percharger.pdf

and play with this
http://www.sprintex.com.au.cust.webi...Calculator.xls
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you guys sound like a bunch of children.

Everyone on this forum approaches forced induction like black magic, between the displacement of the SC the already known VE of the motor and the redline of both the SC and the FA20 you can get a pretty good idea of what to expect, if you guys spent HALF the time you do stalking and badmouthing on this forum you would already know what the kit was going to offer. will it be an exact number? nope, but Dyno's aren't really worth much for the specific numbers they put out anyway.

You guys do this same BS on all the turbo threads, not understanding what even makes the kits different, or better, or worse. Component Quality should be the #1 concern in any of these kits. Fabricated part Quality and fitment is a very close second, yet I continue to see the actual quality kits get shrugged off because of the price points associated with real quality parts and the innovation and understanding to plan out a well fitting kit.

I understand the giddy nature of modding your first car, but why would you want the manufacturer to tell you what their product makes anyway, it's all so subjective, and you'll pick it apart and make accusations when a number finally comes down anyway.

Go read and understand the principles truths and myths behind SC and turbos and KNOW for yourself what will work best for YOU.
Who in the world is this directed at? Most of us who are looking for results on this kit have been following its development with keen interest for a very LONG time now. Also, most of us who are waiting to see actual results have been utilizing various methods of boost across different platforms for many years.
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