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That is why AWD coupe would make sense for Subaru. I'm just looking at this from a financial standpoint. This car is still a long ways from production ready but the future seems to be heading towards small efficient cars.
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I agree with you, they really should go with the AWD route and Toyota go with RWD. Thats what differentiates subarus from other competitors in every other market, why shouldn't they do it in this one. That way, everyone wins. Hopefully they take your advice, or already thought of this ahead of time...
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AWD cars are for rally racing and off roading it. Sports cars for the road or track are pretty much always RWD not AWD.
Now that they are out of the WRC there is absolutely no reason for Subaru to create a AWD layout for a small, agile, 2-door sports car, except possibly as a limited run special edition for those who really think they need it (they don't). The only reason Subaru ever had AWD cars in the line-up was because of their particpation in WRC, not because of some higher principal about the "beauty of AWD". It will be much cheaper to produce and easier to sell the car as is. I really think the model here is Firebird/Camaro -- those cars were, for the most part, only cosmetically different, and GM had no problem selling both to happy consumers who picked whichever one they liked best (I was a FB man, myself ). They both existed (and died) at the same time. Odds are both would have been resurrected together as well had GM not nearly gone under. |
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I think most car companies are suffering from the economic downturn and subaru is definetly not immuned. Their awd platform is a niche product no doubt but entering the rwd market could result in even more competition. I mean they could keep their core customers happy, but getting new customers might be difficult since there will be other alternatives due to the fact that more car companies are seemingly introducing small sports car's.
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Before reading the last few points I woulda bet the farm that the Subaru 086a would be AWD but you guys are making some good points as to why it might not be AWD afterall.
I can now see how this could be a Camaro/Firebird distinction, or like an Eclipse/Talon DSM joint project car. If I remember correctly Those cars were basically the same right.
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The market didn't have big v8 coupes back then. Besides the Firebird and Camaro both were pulled back in 2002 due to slow sales.
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But the best evidence for no AWD option is that nothing has been announced. I'd say there's maybe a 10% a Sti version will get it, but I wouldn't expect it to be regular option for the base car. Quote:
If GM wasn't still pretty much in the toilet, there'd probably be a new Firebird to go with the new Camaro too. I wouldn't be shocked if one gets released in the near future, assuming the Camaro sells well. |
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Right. What i'm saying though is the market for v8 coupes was smaller back then. Subaru could face some tough competition in the future when they enter the rwd market, especially if they decide to go and build 300hp coupes.
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Well... rather than rely on my amazing psychic powers, I'll just say this: If the Subaru version comes with AWD, I'll recant and apologize. I've got no problem admitting when I'm wrong
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10-17-2009, 12:12 AM | #41 |
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Heh no need to apologize, it's just speculation anyways. But man... such a long wait. Lucky my solara is still holding up.
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Don't take the Z car lightly. It's probably the best bang for the buck sports car this side of a 'vette. |
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