Does the throttle response improve?

[whaap]

Originally Posted by TheGuyWithTheFireStorm

Do you think it might be that you got used to the clutch after driving it so often?

Yes. After I made the above post I considered that. In the beginning I thought the light spring tension on the gas pedal made it more difficult than usual to co-ordinate my launches but your suggetion holds a lot of merit.

[Norkoastal]

The combo of DBW, Denso DBW voltage settings, soft/high clutch engagement, and non mechanical clutch all lead to that "vague" feeling you describe.. Throttle controllers may help a bit but id say a custom tune + clutch pedal adjustment would minimize most of the wierdness.

[CircuitJerk]

By nature, despite the response, there is a very small amount of movement before the controller actually moves the throttle plate at idle.
I've observed this during logging with the EcuTek software.

[pr086]

Originally Posted by Norkoastal

The combo of DBW, Denso DBW voltage settings, soft/high clutch engagement, and non mechanical clutch all lead to that "vague" feeling you describe.. Throttle controllers may help a bit but id say a custom tune + clutch pedal adjustment would minimize most of the wierdness.

Wait, we don't have an actual clutch in this car? What do you mean?

[Tim_Asphalt_FRS]

Originally Posted by pr086

Wait, we don't have an actual clutch in this car? What do you mean?

I think he meant hydraulic instead of cable.


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[Demandred7]

Originally Posted by pr086

Wait, we don't have an actual clutch in this car? What do you mean?

Probably non-mechanical throttle linkage (ie. Throttle by wire).

[Norkoastal]

Originally Posted by Tim_Asphalt_FRS

I think he meant hydraulic instead of cable.


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Thanks for clarifying that.. Hope the clutch adjustment helps..

[akyp]

Am I the only one who finds the throttle way too sensitive for normal driving? From a standstill I sometimes spin the wheels inadvertently, especially when taking a turn.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by Norkoastal

The combo of DBW, Denso DBW voltage settings, soft/high clutch engagement, and non mechanical clutch all lead to that "vague" feeling you describe.. Throttle controllers may help a bit but id say a custom tune + clutch pedal adjustment would minimize most of the wierdness.

So todays new cars are stepping backwards? Awesome.

[akuhei]

Adding the Perrin Crank Pulley helped that out quite a bit for me (though I may have also gotten used to it a bit too). I noticed an immediate difference after I put it on, the engine feeling like it can rev up quicker. I am sure any of the crank pulley's out there would likely give the same thing.

[whaap]

Originally Posted by akyp

Am I the only one who finds the throttle way too sensitive for normal driving? From a standstill I sometimes spin the wheels inadvertently, especially when taking a turn.

I don't think it's a matter of the throttle being too sensitive but I do contribute a lot of the problem to several things. One, the throttle spring is so light that it's hard to tell if you're pressing on the gas pedal or not . Two, the car is so quiet, which I prefer. Three, my hearing is bad enough that it adds to the problem of not knowing whether I've pressed on the gas pedal or not.

If you're any thing like me you've driven a lot of manual transmissions in your life. What I've had to intentionally do these last several weeks is get out of my comfortable old habits and go back to basics in driving and work at it instead of doing it "marginally o.k. I've noticed a marked improvement. In fact I just got back from my evening drive and since I've made a concentrated effort I'm much happier with my performance. I'm thinking I just allowed myself to get a little too relaxed and sloppy.

[akuhei]

Originally Posted by whaap

I don't think it's a matter of the throttle being too sensitive but I do contribute a lot of the problem to several things. One, the throttle spring is so light that it's hard to tell if you're pressing on the gas pedal or not . Two, the car is so quiet, which I prefer. Three, my hearing is bad enough that it adds to the problem of not knowing whether I've pressed on the gas pedal or not.

If you're any thing like me you've driven a lot of manual transmissions in your life. What I've had to intentionally do these last several weeks is get out of my comfortable old habits and go back to basics in driving and work at it instead of doing it "marginally o.k. I've noticed a marked improvement. In fact I just got back from my evening drive and since I've made a concentrated effort I'm much happier with my performance. I'm thinking I just allowed myself to get a little too relaxed and sloppy.

I noticed these things you pointed out as well. And sometimes, I do get a little relaxed and sloppy. However, when focused/paying more attention, and in lighter shoes (back and forth to work I drive in military boots..x.x), after the pulley was installed, I did notice an improved response from the pedal after adding a pulley. Not just a feel thing, but watching the tach as well. I've taken it off and put it back on a couple times now with the same results, removing some of the sluggishness in the response. Maybe it is just me or maybe the pulley actually does some good. I tend to lean toward the later because a few of my friends riding around with me have also mentioned that they noticed a difference.

[racecaresuaceb]

That clutch take-up point is extremely irritating at times especially in a quick response situation where your muscle memory remembers a particular clutch takeup point and nothing happens in this till the last few mm.

I am giving myself time to adjust but someday I might just go ahead and change the take-up point.
@akyp: Do you think the reason you find the throttle too sensitive because you end up giving too much revs due to the odd clutch take-up point.

[oldpueblo]

Originally Posted by pr086

Just picked my car up last night and it seems like when i press the gas pedal it doesn't increase the revs right away. Like theres a little bit of travel in the pedal, then i start getting revs. This combined with the high clutch engagement is making starts kind of difficult snd ive been driving manual for years. It doesn't seem like i have percise enough control of the revs when starting from a stop. Does it stay like this or get better? I know there is a period where the ecu is learning, im at about 70 miles now.

You know about the don't go over 4000 RPM till you get past 1000 miles right? Just in case you missed it in the manual.