|
Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum The place to start for the Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 | GT86 |
|
Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
09-03-2018, 09:44 PM | #57 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2012
Drives: FR-S
Location: Houston
Posts: 1,056
Thanks: 464
Thanked 819 Times in 414 Posts
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
This horse is so dead it's nothing but hooves and teeth.
|
09-05-2018, 08:52 PM | #58 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Drives: Panda FR-S
Location: Corona, California
Posts: 531
Thanks: 297
Thanked 377 Times in 161 Posts
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
There are plenty of better track cars than the GT86/FRS/BRZ. I believe the new Civic SI has a better suspension setup and handles better around the track than the twins. It also has a lot more available torque. And it's $3k cheaper.
When these cars first came out, they were thought of as track monsters, but they are pretty average.
__________________
Vortech SC on 9psi Pulley, Invidia Catless Front Pipe, Invidia N1 Catback Exhaust
242whp/197ft-lb on Mustang Dyno (91 octane water) 284whp/223ft-lb on Mustang Dyno (E85) Delicious Tuning |
09-05-2018, 09:54 PM | #59 |
Banned
Join Date: May 2015
Drives: 2015 FR-S
Location: NPR, Florida
Posts: 2,404
Thanks: 1,802
Thanked 2,903 Times in 1,282 Posts
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
^ I hope people who can do actually something read these kinds of posts and realize it's time to bump the power and quiet the masses. When a front wheel drive Civic is faster and cheaper then it's time to change it up.
|
09-05-2018, 10:08 PM | #60 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2017
Drives: 2022 BRZ Limited Silver
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 2,532
Thanks: 882
Thanked 2,045 Times in 1,188 Posts
Mentioned: 68 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
|
09-05-2018, 11:57 PM | #61 | |
TRACKBREAD
Join Date: Mar 2016
Drives: 2013 BRZ
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,929
Thanks: 2,660
Thanked 4,024 Times in 1,895 Posts
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Screw that, I'll take a RWD car with a 9 min ring time over a FWD one that does it in 8 minutes |
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Yoshoobaroo For This Useful Post: |
09-06-2018, 01:09 AM | #62 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,203
Thanks: 500
Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Who cares about "ring" times, I don't, it's lots of stroking and circle jerks IMO.
I like a little RWD manual platform than can be trown around town. And its cheap, and reliable, and some suspension and tyres makes it a super fun little beastie. Fast is not a word I would ever use to describe a 86. Fun cheap little car, yes. I sold my modified 2015 STI for one, no regrets at all, I find it much more fun and engaging than the STI, even though it has half the power of the STI. It is twice the fun of the STI though. Opinions may vary. |
The Following User Says Thank You to 86MLR For This Useful Post: | JIM THEO (09-06-2018) |
09-06-2018, 01:51 AM | #63 |
Banned
Join Date: May 2015
Drives: 2015 FR-S
Location: NPR, Florida
Posts: 2,404
Thanks: 1,802
Thanked 2,903 Times in 1,282 Posts
Mentioned: 25 Post(s)
Tagged: 2 Thread(s)
|
|
09-06-2018, 02:46 AM | #64 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2018
Drives: BRZ 2018
Location: Greece
Posts: 495
Thanks: 119
Thanked 135 Times in 95 Posts
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
|
|
09-06-2018, 03:41 AM | #65 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Drives: 2002 VX Commodore SS LS1 Auto
Location: Sydney
Posts: 2,203
Thanks: 500
Thanked 2,185 Times in 1,111 Posts
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
The little 2 door looks the goods, I could never own a civic or a golf, to me their looks are uninspiring. I love walking up to my 86, it just looks right IMO. As for more power, how much more are you willing to pay above the current RRP for this added power, $5k, $10k, $20k That would put it in, or close to WRX and STI money, Subaru ain't going to do that. That leaves Toyota, want more power you say, Toyota says "here's the new Supra, what color sir". The 86 is priced right for the kids, and people like myself, old farts who like sporty little cars, but have to compromise due to family commitments, hell, I wish I could afford a Porka GT3 RS, but I cannot, so I compromise. Me, if I require more power, there are tons of aftermarket options, which I guarantee will give better results than anything OEM could do for the money. Hell, how much more do they charge for limited/special/TS editions, that give no real power advantages and compromised suspension upgrades. In saying that I grabbed a 2017 limited (Solar Orange), it cost $4k more than the normal GTS, I was happy to pay more for the color (I've never seen another one on the street) and the little Brembo's, but, the PP rims were swapped out for RPF-1, the tyres were swapped for RS4's and the Sachs suspension was swapped out for MCA gear. These simple mods have greatly improved performance, and I mean night and day improvement. Everything but the paint could have been done to a regular GT/GTS, and it would have cost me less, well maybe not adding in the Brembo's, but now the car is suited to my driving requirements, not the requirements of the Toyota/Subaru engineers who design a "one size fits all" car. If I want more power, I've been quoted $12k drive in drive out for a "quality" 300hp turbo upgrade, add another $6-8k for built bottom end and supporting mods for more power. So, in closing this epic rant, you could have built a new GTS with a reliable 300hp atw and a hand picked handling package for less than $16k above sticker, how much more would a similar package cost from Toyota or Subaru, how much more power would you be happy with, and would it even be 300hp and tailored to your requirements? You could even do it well cheaper than $16k if you have the time and inclination to do alot of the work yourself. T;DR, install good suspension, tyres, exhaust and tune for a easy and cheap bump in handling and HP, or buy a Porka All the prices are in AU, we have a special "because Austraia tax" which makes everything IRT car parts cost more. I'm going back to working out if getting a header, and which design, is a viable and good bang for buck option before getting my ECUTEK tune, at this stage, from looking at it over the last few months, it isn't looking that good dollar to gain wise. |
|
The Following User Says Thank You to 86MLR For This Useful Post: | StraightOuttaCanadaEh (09-06-2018) |
09-06-2018, 09:54 AM | #66 |
Pavement Grey
Join Date: Dec 2011
Drives: 2020 Toyota 86 GT, 2017 BMW X1
Location: Calgary
Posts: 3,083
Thanks: 109
Thanked 2,222 Times in 1,204 Posts
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Sasquachulator For This Useful Post: | Adam_L (11-05-2018) |
09-11-2018, 08:22 PM | #67 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2012
Drives: GT86
Location: Nordschleife
Posts: 210
Thanks: 456
Thanked 188 Times in 91 Posts
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Quote:
Horst Von Saurma did an 8:44 with RE050A tires(everything else stock). Full lap. That would be around 8:1X BTG.
__________________
Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/ÓscarFaraday
IG: @oscarfaraday |
|
11-01-2018, 07:39 PM | #68 |
Member
Join Date: Aug 2017
Drives: 2013 brz
Location: toronto
Posts: 68
Thanks: 0
Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
|
Definitely not bad at all... I think it's the stability and handling of the car that allows it to keep it's momentum.
On the other hand... I think the best bang for bucks goes to the Civic Type R. That is a beast of a car and it's not even that expensive... Time was like.. 7:45 for MSRP $43k CAN brand new. |
|
|
|
|
Similar Threads | ||||
Thread | Thread Starter | Forum | Replies | Last Post |
CONGRATULATIONS TOYOTA! TRIPLE WIN FINISH AT 24 HOURS of NURBURGRING!! | Moto-P | Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum | 59 | 05-29-2012 12:39 PM |
Great video of GT86 VLN racer on Nurburgring | Sport-Tech | FR-S & 86 Photos, Videos, Wallpapers, Gallery Forum | 3 | 05-16-2012 12:59 AM |
Predict the Nurburgring Lap Time for the FT-86 | bofa | Scion FR-S / Toyota 86 GT86 General Forum | 170 | 03-31-2012 11:37 PM |
Toyota captures Nurburgring EV record | 1660 | Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions | 2 | 09-01-2011 03:05 AM |
Toyota looks to set Nurburgring record for EV | 1660 | Other Vehicles & General Automotive Discussions | 1 | 08-21-2011 10:34 AM |