TPMS Sensors - Page 9 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

dsgerbc · 11-18-2012, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jayde

Does it get the IDs off the ECU that are already so when summer comes, I can swap back over without getting a reader?

Yes

NRGBalanced · 11-18-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayde

Well I'd say the OEM wheels are 30 yards or so from where I park my car, between a few walls and the light went off, so they do have some range to them!

Same experience here. They're in the basement at the other end of my building, probably 30 yards too.

mla163 · 11-19-2012, 03:56 PM

If Tire Rack ran for president, I might have voted for them.

I was having issues with my Subaru dealer not being able to reset my TPMS since they needed the codes from off of the sensors themselves. Subaru told me they'd need to take the wheel apart to read the codes on the new sensors. They did not have a reader for the codes (blamed it on the Toyota design). I called Tire Rack, they had the codes on file and emailed them to me.

For anyone ordering wheels with new sensors, make sure you get the codes from the installer. Failing that, Tire Rack may have kept the info.

Better yet. Don't get TPMS and deal with the light. It's becoming a pain in the ass and they cost an extra $XXX.

OrbitalEllipses · 11-20-2012, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by mla163

If Tire Rack ran for president, I might have voted for them.

I was having issues with my Subaru dealer not being able to reset my TPMS since they needed the codes from off of the sensors themselves. Subaru told me they'd need to take the wheel apart to read the codes on the new sensors. They did not have a reader for the codes (blamed it on the Toyota design). I called Tire Rack, they had the codes on file and emailed them to me.

For anyone ordering wheels with new sensors, make sure you get the codes from the installer. Failing that, Tire Rack may have kept the info.

Better yet. Don't get TPMS and deal with the light. It's becoming a pain in the ass and they cost an extra $XXX.

My suggestion is to just use the stock sensors on the wheels that go on the car for the longest. That way you only deal with the light for a few months (November-March) in my case.

Khyron686 · 11-20-2012, 03:27 PM

The solution is TPMS sensors that can be cloned to have the exact same IDs as your stock ones. So you have "2" sets of exactly the same sensors, and would never need to program the car no matter how you swapped wheels. This has come up several times before, but no one actually sells them for our cars yet...

mla163 · 11-21-2012, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Khyron686

The solution is TPMS sensors that can be cloned to have the exact same IDs as your stock ones. So you have "2" sets of exactly the same sensors, and would never need to program the car no matter how you swapped wheels. This has come up several times before, but no one actually sells them for our cars yet...

It is possible, but not easy.

I haven't worked it out yet, but my plan is to use the ATEQ quickset to swap codes. The dealer has been completely worthless in trying to sort out my TPMS issues.

Captain Insano · 11-21-2012, 11:17 AM

Dealerships really are lacking info on this car I think in many cases due to it being new model and recently released. I just was at dealership for someother TSBs. Asked about the TPMS for later running different wheels and and differing TPMS while I was waiting. Took them one hour and fourty five minutes to identify 2 TSBs that I gave them the IDs for too. Hmmm.... OK, I guess I can live with that if they have the info they need now and are doing the fixes for free (they are).

Dealership said they would charge me $20 each time to swap the codes as I switched wheels if the light came on. Rather than potentially $20 each time I change wheel/tires for season or track as well as added expense of the extra sensors themselves... When I do summer wheel/tire combo (running winter tires on stock wheels now with OEM TPMS sensors working fine on that setup) I will just live with the little yellow light.

neutron256 · 11-21-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Insano

Dealerships really are lacking info on this car I think in many cases due to it being new model and recently released. I just was at dealership for someother TSBs. Asked about the TPMS for later running different wheels and and differing TPMS while I was waiting. Took them one hour and fourty five minutes to identify 2 TSBs that I gave them the IDs for too. Hmmm.... OK, I guess I can live with that if they have the info they need now and are doing the fixes for free (they are).

Dealership said they would charge me $20 each time to swap the codes as I switched wheels if the light came on. Rather than potentially $20 each time I change wheel/tires for season or track as well as added expense of the extra sensors themselves... When I do summer wheel/tire combo (running winter tires on stock wheels now with OEM TPMS sensors working fine on that setup) I will just live with the little yellow light.

Well $20 is better then most dealerships, but yeah if your doing it a lot it's going to add up quickly. ATEQ quickset is the way to go if you change wheels a lot and don't want the light.

Dipstik-sportech · 12-02-2012, 06:41 PM

Ok this maybe a stupid question; just swapped to my winter tires on my stock rims. No where on the rim was there TPMS sensors and I have regular rubber valve stems from the factory. Do I not have TPMS or is it a wheel speed sensor based system like new fords?

neutron256 · 12-02-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

Ok this maybe a stupid question; just swapped to my winter tires on my stock rims. No where on the rim was there TPMS sensors and I have regular rubber valve stems from the factory. Do I not have TPMS or is it a wheel speed sensor based system like new fords?

Sounds like you don't have TPMS and as I recall its not manditory in Canada.

Shimmyshake · 12-02-2012, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dipstik-sportech

Ok this maybe a stupid question; just swapped to my winter tires on my stock rims. No where on the rim was there TPMS sensors and I have regular rubber valve stems from the factory. Do I not have TPMS or is it a wheel speed sensor based system like new fords?

BRZ's in Canada don't have TPMS...only the FR-S does

NYC BRZ · 12-03-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Khyron686

The solution is TPMS sensors that can be cloned to have the exact same IDs as your stock ones. So you have "2" sets of exactly the same sensors, and would never need to program the car no matter how you swapped wheels. This has come up several times before, but no one actually sells them for our cars yet...

Just spent 4 hours working on a solution for this today...running into some snags identifying the correct TPMS protocol so no solution just yet. Everyone is saying the 2012 Camry Sensor works so we're working with that info. Haven't pinpointed the correct combo of sensor, protocol, and relearn software yet. Toyota is notoriously tricky when it comes to relearns since its not a typical key on/off, lower pressure/raise pressure, or drive cycle relearn. You usually need a tool. I guess that's the fun part of product development!

OrbitalEllipses · 12-03-2012, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shimmyshake

BRZ's in Canada don't have TPMS...only the FR-S does

You have an interesting Gubbermint! Socialized medicine, but no idiot minders?

WRXcellent · 12-03-2012, 07:23 PM

So, is something wrong and should I be concerned, but I changed out my stock wheels for a winter set of wheels without TPMS on Saturday and have driven the car for two days, but the TPMS warning light has not come on at all. I know when I had low pressure on the stock wheels, the warning light came up, so I filled up the tires with air and the warning light went away. Shouldn't the TPMS warning light be on constantly now that the winter tires don't have TPMS?

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11-19-2012, 03:56 PM	#115
mla163 Overthinking it Join Date: May 2012 Drives: BRZ in CS Location: DC Posts: 271 Thanks: 27 Thanked 81 Times in 48 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	If Tire Rack ran for president, I might have voted for them. I was having issues with my Subaru dealer not being able to reset my TPMS since they needed the codes from off of the sensors themselves. Subaru told me they'd need to take the wheel apart to read the codes on the new sensors. They did not have a reader for the codes (blamed it on the Toyota design). I called Tire Rack, they had the codes on file and emailed them to me. For anyone ordering wheels with new sensors, make sure you get the codes from the installer. Failing that, Tire Rack may have kept the info. Better yet. Don't get TPMS and deal with the light. It's becoming a pain in the ass and they cost an extra $XXX.

11-20-2012, 03:27 PM	#117
Khyron686 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Drives: 2011 Outlander XLS, 2013 FR-S Blue Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 634 Thanks: 129 Thanked 168 Times in 102 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The solution is TPMS sensors that can be cloned to have the exact same IDs as your stock ones. So you have "2" sets of exactly the same sensors, and would never need to program the car no matter how you swapped wheels. This has come up several times before, but no one actually sells them for our cars yet...

11-21-2012, 11:17 AM	#119
Captain Insano Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: 2014 Jeep Wrangler RubiconX Location: Midwest, USA Posts: 1,282 Thanks: 110 Thanked 292 Times in 224 Posts Mentioned: 7 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Dealerships really are lacking info on this car I think in many cases due to it being new model and recently released. I just was at dealership for someother TSBs. Asked about the TPMS for later running different wheels and and differing TPMS while I was waiting. Took them one hour and fourty five minutes to identify 2 TSBs that I gave them the IDs for too. Hmmm.... OK, I guess I can live with that if they have the info they need now and are doing the fixes for free (they are). Dealership said they would charge me $20 each time to swap the codes as I switched wheels if the light came on. Rather than potentially $20 each time I change wheel/tires for season or track as well as added expense of the extra sensors themselves... When I do summer wheel/tire combo (running winter tires on stock wheels now with OEM TPMS sensors working fine on that setup) I will just live with the little yellow light.

12-02-2012, 06:41 PM	#121
Dipstik-sportech Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ satin white pearl sportech Location: Thunder Bay Ontario Canada Posts: 1,813 Thanks: 842 Thanked 911 Times in 576 Posts Mentioned: 43 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ok this maybe a stupid question; just swapped to my winter tires on my stock rims. No where on the rim was there TPMS sensors and I have regular rubber valve stems from the factory. Do I not have TPMS or is it a wheel speed sensor based system like new fords?

12-03-2012, 07:23 PM	#126
WRXcellent Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ Limited WRB & 2002 WRX WRB Location: Central Jersey & New Haven CT Posts: 37 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So, is something wrong and should I be concerned, but I changed out my stock wheels for a winter set of wheels without TPMS on Saturday and have driven the car for two days, but the TPMS warning light has not come on at all. I know when I had low pressure on the stock wheels, the warning light came up, so I filled up the tires with air and the warning light went away. Shouldn't the TPMS warning light be on constantly now that the winter tires don't have TPMS?

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