Want to turbo my BRZ...Ideas?

[TachyonBomb]

Originally Posted by Xxyion

To the OP.

How much money do you think you will save i'm curious. I know you've talked about saving money to get exactly what you want and how people tell you, you wont. But i have yet to see some real numbers being thrown around.

It sounds like you want to stick under 5000$...Thats fair. But i also saw that you are trying to piece together various parts from various kits. The customization itself is going to take a toll on your budget. Think in the thousands easy. You claimed earlier that you are already 2k in with the turbo, and the manifold. You are almost halfway through with your budget and you dont even have the important parts that will allow your car to even start up much less run properly. You want E85 too? Thats already going to cost you anywhere between 600-800$ depending on who does your tune. If you dyno tune expect to spend another 250-500$. So now you are 3k in from your 5k budget. Ok so piping? Thats another 300$ if you go with a cheap ebay option. Oil cooler? Theres 600$ minimum right there. How about a boost controller? Or maybe something to gauge your boost to make sure you arent over boosting? Thats almost another 700$ right there. And this is assuming you are installing everything yourself. Oh can we mention we havent even finished building your turbo kit yet?

So now you are 5k into your 5k budget, you dont have a complete turbo kit and you've left no room to purchase the other small items you need or to pay for the custom fabrication you are going to need to get all the parts to fit.

And yet you dont want to buy a JDL V2 kit which can be custom to your specs and WITH a Flex Fuel Kit you will be out the door just under 5k. Assuming you install everything yourself.


There hasnt been anything in this thread that has convinced anyone that you know what you are doing. Hell I dont even really know what i'm doing and i still know that buying a kit is not only going to be more cost effective in the short AND long term. But i also know the kit will legitimately work.

We all know this guy is clueless and is going to end up learning "the hard way".

But since it really makes me a sad panda when people when people don't know what is in their food, where it comes from or how to make the food they eat, I will play devils advocate in his favor lol.

His budget of $5000 may actually be higher than his end goal could cost.

- Buy horrible quality controlled Chinese knock off Garrett turbo
- Get JDL turbo header
- Have welder from the hood on speed dial
- Weld together a pipe using a V-band flange
- Weld other side of pipe to overpipe style flange
- Know how to piece together oil fitting to oil lines (not difficult)
- Get random oil cooler core
- Oil sandwich
- Get Pipe with pre-welded blow off valve flange of your choosing
- Get an generic intercooler (they come in many generic sizes online)
- Get generic piping/couplers which mate everything together (no welding)
- Buy wastegate
- Rubber vacuum hoses
- T-Bolt clamps (just a person preference)
- Weld/bend/drill together brackets to mate intercooler/oil cooler to car
- Garret turbo install kit
- Piece together the turbo oil and coolant hoses + fittings (not difficult)
- Sit back
- and PROFIT!

The above list can be accomplished under the $5000 budget. Sourcing the needed hoses, fittings, IC pipes, couplers, flanges is pretty easy and cost effective with this crazy internet thing. Being able to at least purchase the JDL turbo header on its own does a lot to make things easier.

THINGS TO THINK ABOUT:

- Welding skills and materials used will determine exhaust ghetto factor
- Intercooler piping will not be as fitted as car specific piping does
- Oil cooler lines will look better since you can take the slack out
- Ebay intercoolers work well. (This was a thing in the evo 8/9 world)
- Generic or fabbed up does not = bad as long as you know what you're doing
- Fabbing up your own kit or any component is not a "90's thing". It still happens on contemporary platforms (Or did we already forget about Phantom E-superchargers)? lol
- Please spend the extra money and get a real Garret/Mitsu component turbo

Example of site to buy real turbo/turbo parts from:
http://www.turbokits.com/Turbo_Charg...Gen_II_Series/

Example of IC piping/coupler generic part website:
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/?osCs...d0e45c324961c1

Example of generic intercooler on a major website:
https://www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMI...NFT5YJDKVH4K9R



“Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible.”

― Albert Einstein

[Alltezza]

Sounds like he can just simplify this entire process by getting a JDL Kit lmao

[nickdd6237]

Originally Posted by TachyonBomb

We all know this guy is clueless and is going to end up learning "the hard way".

But since it really makes me a sad panda when people when people don't know what is in their food, where it comes from or how to make the food they eat, I will play devils advocate in his favor lol.

His budget of $5000 may actually be higher than his end goal could cost.

- Buy horrible quality controlled Chinese knock off Garrett turbo
- Get JDL turbo header
- Have welder from the hood on speed dial
- Weld together a pipe using a V-band flange
- Weld other side of pipe to overpipe style flange
- Know how to piece together oil fitting to oil lines (not difficult)
- Get random oil cooler core
- Oil sandwich
- Get Pipe with pre-welded blow off valve flange of your choosing
- Get an generic intercooler (they come in many generic sizes online)
- Get generic piping/couplers which mate everything together (no welding)
- Buy wastegate
- Rubber vacuum hoses
- T-Bolt clamps (just a person preference)
- Weld/bend/drill together brackets to mate intercooler/oil cooler to car
- Garret turbo install kit
- Piece together the turbo oil and coolant hoses + fittings (not difficult)
- Sit back
- and PROFIT!

The above list can be accomplished under the $5000 budget. Sourcing the needed hoses, fittings, IC pipes, couplers, flanges is pretty easy and cost effective with this crazy internet thing. Being able to at least purchase the JDL turbo header on its own does a lot to make things easier.

THINGS TO THINK ABOUT:

- Welding skills and materials used will determine exhaust ghetto factor
- Intercooler piping will not be as fitted as car specific piping does
- Oil cooler lines will look better since you can take the slack out
- Ebay intercoolers work well. (This was a thing in the evo 8/9 world)
- Generic or fabbed up does not = bad as long as you know what you're doing
- Fabbing up your own kit or any component is not a "90's thing". It still happens on contemporary platforms (Or did we already forget about Phantom E-superchargers)? lol
- Please spend the extra money and get a real Garret/Mitsu component turbo

Example of site to buy real turbo/turbo parts from:
http://www.turbokits.com/Turbo_Charg...Gen_II_Series/

Example of IC piping/coupler generic part website:
http://www.siliconeintakes.com/?osCs...d0e45c324961c1

Example of generic intercooler on a major website:
https://www.amazon.com/Mishimoto-MMI...NFT5YJDKVH4K9R



“Only those who attempt the absurd can achieve the impossible.”

― Albert Einstein

Why the JDL manifold instead of the
https://www.maperformance.com/produc...s-ft86-tkit-hp?

It'd be best to buy the turbo manifold and turbo first before anything right? Then I can figure out the intercooler piping one that stuff is installed.

[nickdd6237]

This wont be my daily driver so I'm still kinda iffy on the Flex Fuel. I know the car shouldnt be sitting longer than a week with e85. This also gives me time to get fitments right and all the pieces together since I have another car to drive.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by nickdd6237

This wont be my daily driver so I'm still kinda iffy on the Flex Fuel. I know the car shouldnt be sitting longer than a week with e85. This also gives me time to get fitments right and all the pieces together since I have another car to drive.

My car sits longer than that with E85 all the time.

[Joeyb860]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You can make 300whp at 6-7 psi.

This isnt' a 20 year old B series.

What kit are you running? I like the AVO kit but was worried about the clutch. What are your thoughts?

[jasonojordan]

Originally Posted by nickdd6237

This wont be my daily driver so I'm still kinda iffy on the Flex Fuel. I know the car shouldnt be sitting longer than a week with e85. This also gives me time to get fitments right and all the pieces together since I have another car to drive.

In the summer my car will sit 2 weeks at a time or more all the time on ethanol never had a issue.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Joeyb860

What kit are you running? I like the AVO kit but was worried about the clutch. What are your thoughts?

GReddy + Delicious Tuning FF kit + Tune.

PM me if you want to replicate any part of my setup. I make that power on a *stock* clutch.

[nickdd6237]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

My car sits longer than that with E85 all the time.

Originally Posted by jasonojordan

In the summer my car will sit 2 weeks at a time or more all the time on ethanol never had a issue.

Cool, good to know.

[nickdd6237]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

GReddy + Delicious Tuning FF kit + Tune.

PM me if you want to replicate any part of my setup. I make that power on a *stock* clutch.

I saw that ECU-Tek will rent you out the connector and chip for a week if you buy the license. So does that mean I can just rent it, take it to a tuner, and get it tuned? I dont NEED to have the ECU-TEk connector once its tuned do I? This way would be alot cheaper.

[jasonojordan]

Originally Posted by nickdd6237

I saw that ECU-Tek will rent you out the connector and chip for a week if you buy the license. So does that mean I can just rent it, take it to a tuner, and get it tuned? I dont NEED to have the ECU-TEk connector once its tuned do I? This way would be alot cheaper.

Alot of reputable tuners will just sell your a license when they tune your car. Any tuner that is ECU-TEK dealer certified will already have the cables and what not along with the tuner license so no need to rent the cables.

[nickdd6237]

Originally Posted by jasonojordan

Alot of reputable tuners will just sell your a license when they tune your car. Any tuner that is ECU-TEK dealer certified will already have the cables and what not along with the tuner license so no need to rent the cables.

ah ok thanks. So I will have to pay for the Licence and Tune seperately right?

[jasonojordan]

Originally Posted by nickdd6237

ah ok thanks. So I will have to pay for the Licence and Tune seperately right?

Correct. I believe a ECU-Tek License runs around $300-$400

[mjanmohammad]

Originally Posted by nickdd6237

ah ok thanks. So I will have to pay for the Licence and Tune seperately right?

A lot of tuners bundle the tune/license together. When I got mine done, my tuner charged me $750 which included the tuning time, license, and free minor revisions for 6 months.