FR-S/BRZ vs. Genesis Coupe

[SUB-FT86]

http://www.whatsthesig.com/automobil...-track-edition


The difference between a true muscle car and one that isn't.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by spin9k

I was going to say. If the definition of "GT" is to be stuck to some quaint definition of 30 years ago, why even bother to discuss it? Great and all for bar room debates, but essesntially meaningless as a performance metric considering the dearth of barebones cars of any type.

That list makes me laugh

you're not the only one. LFA, Z and Vette are definitely not GT cars. GT-R is arguable. GT-R is tuned to run on the ring with stiff suspension and computer aids to give the best time possible, and that's not a purpose of a GT car.

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by Dark

you're not the only one. LFA, Z and Vette are definitely not GT cars. GT-R is arguable. GT-R is tuned to run on the ring with stiff suspension and computer aids to give the best time possible, and that's not a purpose of a GT car.

Those cars can be considered GT cars though.

The LFA is luxurious, heavy, and doesn't offer a manual
The 370Z is considered heavy by most and can come in a GT model but it can also be voided of those features.
The GT-R has it in the name.

But all those cars favor Sport over being a regular GT so I call them GT/Sports cars.

[Dark]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

Those cars can be considered GT cars though.

The LFA is luxurious, heavy, and doesn't offer a manual
The 370Z is considered heavy by most and can come in a GT model but it can also be voided of those features.
The GT-R has it in the name.

But all those cars favor Sport over being a regular GT so I call them GT/Sports cars.

If I remember correctly, LFA is about 10kg heavier than Z with all the luxury features it has. If LFA belongs to the list so do all cars from Aston Martin, Maserati, Lamborghini, Ferrari, and Audi R8. It's arguable that only a FR can be a GT car. What about 911 Carrera? And where is Rolls Royce Phantom Coupe in the list?

Any explanation on Vette? I call the list bullshit.

[SUB-FT86]

^You prove the point I was trying to make. These days any sports car can have GT tendencies because automakers want to offer conveniences to make their customers more happy and comfortable.

Ferrari's are more luxurious and offer DCT on 75% of there models
Lamborghini is the same as Ferrari
Aston Martin specializes in GT sports coupe from forever
Lotus will offer more GT-esque cars in the future instead of there pure sports cars they offer now
Porsche is doing a lot of the same things but keeping the manual gearbox alive though.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

^You prove the point I was trying to make. These days any sports car can have GT tendencies because automakers want to offer conveniences to make their customers more happy and comfortable.

Ferrari's are more luxurious and offer DCT on 75% of there models
Lamborghini is the same as Ferrari
Aston Martin specializes in GT sports coupe from forever
Lotus will offer more GT-esque cars in the future instead of there pure sports cars they offer now
Porsche is doing a lot of the same things but keeping the manual gearbox alive though.

then what cars are sports cars?

[SUB-FT86]

Originally Posted by fatoni

then what cars are sports cars?

[Dark]

Originally Posted by SUB-FT86

^You prove the point I was trying to make. These days any sports car can have GT tendencies because automakers want to offer conveniences to make their customers more happy and comfortable.

Ferrari's are more luxurious and offer DCT on 75% of there models
Lamborghini is the same as Ferrari
Aston Martin specializes in GT sports coupe from forever
Lotus will offer more GT-esque cars in the future instead of there pure sports cars they offer now
Porsche is doing a lot of the same things but keeping the manual gearbox alive though.

You wouldn't want to call either Aston Martin Zagato or Ferrari 458 italia a GT car.

[miata]

GC=GT. FRS=compact coupe.

[glorydays]

you guys are in too deep.

[catharsis]

wow and this is still going on? You people must really be bored.

[Tbxgz]

Originally Posted by glorydays

you guys are in too deep.

[cassidy0998]

Yeah this has gone a little too far. But for the people talking about GT and what not...

Umm... The European 86 is called the GT86 :/

[Dark]

Originally Posted by cassidy0998

Yeah this has gone a little too far. But for the people talking about GT and what not...

Umm... The European 86 is called the GT86 :/

Doesn't mean GT in GT86 is the same meaning as GT, no? GT in GT-R stands for Gran Turismo Racer.