Supercharger and blown engine

[D K]

Originally Posted by s2d4

That is great, but that wasn't what I was referring to, thanks for quoting me though.

Do you care to explain bro?

You said ppl with jrsc issues were starting to show up.

Then you said issues = blow up


Im confused now....

IF you have info in regards to fa20 engines with Rotrex chargers blowing up, would you please share?

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[Foobar]

Originally Posted by D K

Then you said issues = blow up

He actually said issues != blowing up

That's the opposite of what you think he said.


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[glamcem]

Originally Posted by romin

Jackson Racing SC
Jackson Racing Oil Cooler
JRTuned Tune
VP Racing Motorsports 109 Fuel
13K Track Miles - 10K NA / 3K FI

I figured this would happen at some point.
Engine had a strange off throttle oscillation that couldn't be tracked down.
Here is what my oil pan looked like after a connecting rod let go:

Sorry to hear that

Did you get a chance to find the root cause? in the JR owners thread, you recently mentioned that some oil leakage with JR oil cooler, I wonder if it's related to that or tune (or maybe combination of both)

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by vgi

nothing to do with JRSC specifically (or rotrex, or even SS - they don't overboost).

things to blame may be:
the tune
the engine is weak from subu - odd lot
that 109 Fuel is a donkey piss(if the tune is for racing 100 gas)
the engine can't take 10K track miles with around 175whp/120wtq

definitely not SS - it survived, didn't it?

how come you are so sure about that? I mean it may not be the sole factor but it could be one of the factors .. saying nothing to do with "X kit " is a bit misleading IMO, I am not specifically talking about the JR kit but all the FI kits in general..when you add 60-70% more power to the engine you alter so many different things..saying "zero issues" for any aftermarket part is not correct, there is always some margin of error, always ..

I am not sure why people defend the parts that they use on their cars like there is no tomorrow, and so biased .. of course, compared to other FI options Rotrex kits look less harmful but risk is still there

[D K]

Originally Posted by Foobar

He actually said issues != blowing up

That's the opposite of what you think he said.


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Im completely lost now.

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by D K

Im completely lost now.

"!= " is the "not equal" operator in programming language/terminology
people tend to use programming jargon on internet quite often for some reason

[D K]

Ok

I see light at the end of the tunnel now.....


Still, I am eager to hear about others with jrsc issues.
For the simple reason of collecting data and trying to keep track of whats causing problems.

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[glamcem]

[quote=vgi;1988139]@glamcem

mmm....

ok, i guess for people like you I'll have to be more explicit.

people like me?? please do tell, I am kinda slow

^^ that was exactly the point of my post. There will be blown engines with JRSC and all other FI kits. However I highly doubt it will be due to some part of the kit itself (bunch of pipes, belt, ic, and blower?).

you know the fact that the guy mentioned that his JR oil cooler was leaking right? well, it's just bunch of bolts and hoses, that's all!!! but if it leaks things may go wrong ..same can be said for other things, the added heat/stress due to location or other factors may affect other things too.. saying "nothing to do with XXX kit.." is misleading

The FI kits, strictly, just force feed air. It's the tuner's job to make power off of it safely and reliably.

I know exactly what they do then again abstraction doesn't apply here, many things may or may not be related and that's the very reason it's sometime very hard to diagnose the issues, a small stupid zip tie may look useless but can eliminate many issues down the road

^^ that is a dummy paragraph contradicting itself: I have only stated what you have stated in the second sentence and considering you have a rotrex kit that second sentence makes you person who "defend the parts that they use on their cars like there is no tomorrow, and so biased".

now, pls do let me know which part of JSCR kit could cause engine failure as all other options (I think all) i have covered in my post?


^^ you gotta grow up and stop putting tags on people making these dummy stmts

now, pls do let me know which part of JSCR kit itself could cause engine failure (as all other options - I think all - i have covered in my post), then I'll agree with you?

[blown]

I dont think any of these motors stock is good for boost, mine popped with innovate kit.

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by vgi

@glamcem
I understand, it's the end of the week...

Oil cooler is not part of the kit.

Maybe you do know exactly what the kit does but then it's not clear from your posts.

All the abstractions are in fact added by you. I actually remove those and speak about the kit only. Installation mistakes, like missing zip tie, is an abstraction and has nothing to do with the kit just like extra parts you may want to install like fueling components or sensors.

Not sure what the rest of your quoting means

well maybe, I think I misinterpreted your first post ..my apologies ..

I am just sick of hearing "hey this kit is flawless and there is no room for error " sort of statements from the general audience that's all and yes oil cooler is not part of the actual kit but things in this kit or any kit may still affect the car (inefficient coolant, core size, placement etc) indirectly ..

more the power, more the heat (regardless of the size of the engine) which results in premature engine failure ..obviously some engines take the beating better than the others (Hondas maybe)

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by blown

I dont think any of these motors stock is good for boost, mine popped with innovate kit.

How did it blow, who tuned it?

[D K]

Originally Posted by glamcem

"hey this kit is flawless and there is no room for error "

I dont mean to add fuel to the fire, but has anybody ever said that?

[s2d4]

Originally Posted by D K

I dont mean to add fuel to the fire, but has anybody ever said that?

Yes.

[Andrew025]

Originally Posted by vgi

@s2d4 love your answers, when someone asks 'was it' the answer is 'yes', when someone asks 'where' the answer is 'in the owners thread' (over there somewhere).
curious how happy you'd be with people answering your Qs with such informative answers.

Yes