100% DI Failure with Nurburgring rentals

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Asinar

I doubt anyone sane would seriously advocate stripping off the ECU's, eliminate variable timing, or slap on a carburetor to "simplify" the FA20.

I would consider it, not a huge fan of electronic throttles and if I wasn't worried about emissions or had access to a consistent high octane fuel I bet you could make more power than stock with two whopping carbs on there, not to mention the weight savings from the wiring harnesses and control units and high pressure fuel system. The thing wouldn't be a good daily driver (probably run horrid under 3k rpm, at least if tuned for performance which would have it running at >4.5k rpm all day) but I bet it'd be even more of a hoot with better throttle response than the OEM. Up until a year or two ago NASCAR was pushing 800+ hp through their carbureted V8's, there's hundreds of ways to skin a cat just like there is to combust fuel, a well designed carb can keep up with most fuel injection systems if the application is specific.

But than again I don't think many people believe me to be sane... I'll go back to fantasizing about a RWD conversion Abarth or rotary Miata.

[Marrk]

Originally Posted by Asinar

It's a new technology that's going to take time to refine. .

Originally Posted by track junkie

A DI/PI head isn't exactly new technology for Toyota, it was developed before 2006 for Lexus.
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/02/22/h...cadillac-3-6l/

I guess "new" is a relative term.

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by thill

Well this was done mostly for emissions/MPG. CAFE standards will push car companies to squeeze the most of their car lineups including mass produced 2 seater sports coupes. This is why you will see cars like the Mustang, Camaro, Gencoupe, GTI, etc shed weight into the future and offer DI on all their cars.

If it was simply for emissions.. They could have lowered the CR and made it all less complex. They were after a marketing HP number.. And DI gets it there.
They also focused on throttle response via The CR.. They definitely were after performance with the FA20.. Within a budget..

[Mikem53]

Originally Posted by regal

As far as your demise of Scion, why are you asking me? Use google if you are concerned.

My demise of Scion? Its one of your latest claims..! now you don't even recall it?
maybe the recent link below will refresh your memory.. You said they were closing HALF the SCION dealerships.
You start BS at the drop of a hat..
LOL.. unreal.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=92

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

My demise of Scion? Its one of your latest claims..! now you don't even recall it?
maybe the recent link below will refresh your memory.. You said they were closing HALF the SCION dealerships.
You start BS at the drop of a hat..
LOL.. unreal.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=92

There was a thread about that awhile back, it's more credible than the convertible concept and power increase people keep bringing up.

http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dl...#axzz2fTHiGao2

[ft_sjo]

This thread should be closed as it wasn't factually correct in the first place. It's just feeding the regalnoia.

[EINSTEIN562]

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

Happen to know a date? Mine is an early January build

Just went to the dealer for scheduled oil change. Jan. 30th, 2013 build date with 01C calibration