Gun Showcase Thread (No Politics or Philosophical Discussions)

[RFB]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

PSG1 clone using a HK91. Well, a PTR 91 receiver.

A simple job of assembly if you have the parts.

The difficulty is any specialized tools required for assembly.

Sites like AR15.com, MILSURP.com, BROWNELLS etc. are a valuable asset.
I am a gunsmith but i still need the net to find stuff I require for builds.





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[pche]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

PSG1 clone using a HK91. Well, a PTR 91 receiver.

That's an interesting project, I personally don't know much about HKs, a PSG1 would be bad ass. I actually had a HK91 at one point, great gun, but I had an offer I couldn't pass up and sold it.... Took the money and built a top shelf AR10 and had left overs for all kinds of accessories and ammo.

[Nevermore]

Originally Posted by RFB

A simple job of assembly if you have the parts.

The difficulty is any specialized tools required for assembly.

Sites like AR15.com, MILSURP.com, BROWNELLS etc. are a valuable asset.
I am a gunsmith but i still need the net to find stuff I require for builds.


CERBERUS

That's what I was wondering. I don't know anything about guns, or building them. But this one site seems to sell everything so it seems simple enough to get the parts, all I would need is a smith/shop to do the gun. But I don't know if it really is so simple. Here's a list of what I had in mind, you tell me if it makes sense or if I'm crazy. I doubt that's all I would need. But for starters, I'm thinking that short list makes the most sense.

Receiver:
PTR 91 Receiver

Barrel:
PSG1 | barrel

Trigger Assembly:
PSG1 Trigger group

Stock:
Magpul PRS2 HK Stock

Originally Posted by pche

That's an interesting project, I personally don't know much about HKs, a PSG1 would be bad ass. I actually had a HK91 at one point, great gun, but I had an offer I couldn't pass up and sold it.... Took the money and built a top shelf AR10 and had left overs for all kinds of accessories and ammo.

The PSG1 is awesome. But it's hard to find and people selling them want like 15k for them. I can't see myself ever paying that much. I doubt I'll be able to afford the clone, let alone the real one. But it's nice to think about and I consider the clone easier to accomplish.

[pche]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

The PSG1 is awesome. But it's hard to find and people selling them want like 15k for them. I can't see myself ever paying that much. I doubt I'll be able to afford the clone, let alone the real one. But it's nice to think about and I consider the clone easier to accomplish.

Although the PSG1 would top the chart in cool factor, it's hard to beat the AR platform in "bang for the buck" (pun intended). For the money you can build something that'll sling the 7.62 NATO way better than a PSG1 would. Just a thought

[SirBrass]

Or sling even better rounds provided the upper reciever & recoil springs are sturdy enough.

On phone I am. Therefore, if mistakes I make, Frank Oz blame you should.

[Giccin]

What would you guys recommend for a beginner's pistol? And.. around the 400-500 range.

I saw a rugar 1911 for 550 but not sure whether or not to bite...

[cfusionpm]

Originally Posted by Giccin

What would you guys recommend for a beginner's pistol? And.. around the 400-500 range.

I saw a rugar 1911 for 550 but not sure whether or not to bite...

I'm an absolute huge fan of the Springfield XD and XDM series pistols. They can be had in that price range with great ergonomics, better accuracy than I can shoot, good application of passive safeties, excellent reliability, and a quality feel that I just don't get from other popular polymers (Glock, M&P, etc), which have a rattly, plasticky toy feeling. But that last one is just personal preference.

In California, if you want anything off-roster, like the XDM, you have to go through what is called Single Shot Exemption. Only a few gun stores are willing and able to do this, but luckily there are plenty of them in LA/OC and a few in SD as well.

[Nevermore]

Originally Posted by pche

Although the PSG1 would top the chart in cool factor, it's hard to beat the AR platform in "bang for the buck" (pun intended). For the money you can build something that'll sling the 7.62 NATO way better than a PSG1 would. Just a thought

Originally Posted by SirBrass

Or sling even better rounds provided the upper reciever & recoil springs are sturdy enough.

On phone I am. Therefore, if mistakes I make, Frank Oz blame you should.

So, here's where I could potentially annoy some people. Think of what a PSG1 looks like. That's what I'm after the most. I'm not saying, "As long as it looks good, I don't care if it's a crappy gun." No, I still want a good gun. But the good gun also still has to have that form.

[pche]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

So, here's where I could potentially annoy some people. Think of what a PSG1 looks like. That's what I'm after the most. I'm not saying, "As long as it looks good, I don't care if it's a crappy gun." No, I still want a good gun. But the good gun also still has to have that form.

Nah I hear ya man! PSG1 is a bad ass/super rare gun. I would love to have one myself if I have the means. There're plenty of guns that would out shoot it for half the price but they're just not nearly as cool and unique. And we all love the wow factor at the range when we whipe out something special

[Nevermore]

Originally Posted by pche

Nah I hear ya man! PSG1 is a bad ass/super rare gun. I would love to have one myself if I have the means. There're plenty of guns that would out shoot it for half the price but they're just not nearly as cool and unique. And we all love the wow factor at the range when we whipe out something special

Yeah, I'm just saying. I would rather have one. But way too expensive for me. So the next best thing is a gun that looks like it. A good example is something like this:


But even that is a pricey rifle from what I've seen. I'd rather build a clone PSG1 for that price. So it's a back and forth. PSG1 too expensive. Clone too expensive. Look alike too expensive. Rather have a clone for that price. Rather have either for cheaper! So I figured gun people could tell me more.

[pche]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

Yeah, I'm just saying. I would rather have one. But way too expensive for me. So the next best thing is a gun that looks like it. A good example is something like this:


But even that is a pricey rifle from what I've seen. I'd rather build a clone PSG1 for that price. So it's a back and forth. PSG1 too expensive. Clone too expensive. Look alike too expensive. Rather have a clone for that price. Rather have either for cheaper! So I figured gun people could tell me more.

I see, good luck man, hopefully someone more knowlegable than me would come along and help you out. Although I think you'll have better luck on a HK forum.

[cfusionpm]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

Yeah, I'm just saying. I would rather have one. But way too expensive for me. So the next best thing is a gun that looks like it. A good example is something like this:


But even that is a pricey rifle from what I've seen. I'd rather build a clone PSG1 for that price. So it's a back and forth. PSG1 too expensive. Clone too expensive. Look alike too expensive. Rather have a clone for that price. Rather have either for cheaper! So I figured gun people could tell me more.

You could acomplish about 90% of what you want by simply getting a PTR91 with the PRS stock and the wide front end. Mount an optic on top and there you go. I'm not an HK expert by any means (because I think all of their stuff is horribly over-priced), but the one thing that may be tough to change is the grip. Most HK rifles usually have the grip integrated into the receiver, but I have seen some separate.

Either way, your best budget-minded option would be that. It's not going to shoot like a PSG-1, but it's also not going to cost you five digits. A friend of mine has a PTR91 and I've shot it a few times. Very different bolt mechanism and very unique recoil impulse. It's not the most accurate thing in the world, but it's standard "battle rifle" accurate and plenty good fun. Probably as much as my M1A, which is about 3-4MOA with ball ammo. Maybe a little less with match ammo.

Rifle: http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/comp....html?Itemid=0

[RFB]

Originally Posted by Nevermore

That's what I was wondering. I don't know anything about guns, or building them. But this one site seems to sell everything so it seems simple enough to get the parts, all I would need is a smith/shop to do the gun. But I don't know if it really is so simple. Here's a list of what I had in mind, you tell me if it makes sense or if I'm crazy. I doubt that's all I would need. But for starters, I'm thinking that short list makes the most sense.

Receiver:
PTR 91 Receiver

Barrel:
PSG1 | barrel

Trigger Assembly:
PSG1 Trigger group

Stock:
Magpul PRS2 HK Stock

The PSG1 is awesome. But it's hard to find and people selling them want like 15k for them. I can't see myself ever paying that much. I doubt I'll be able to afford the clone, let alone the real one. But it's nice to think about and I consider the clone easier to accomplish.

I personally think that HK platform is outdated and has been surpassed by many new designs which outperform it for far less money.
But if the look cool factor is worth it to you - GO FOR IT !

I fired a Sturmgewehr 44 full auto, lousy intermediate cartridge, horrible accuracy, tin can assembly (not forged) etc. but it was the most controllable full auto I have ever fired and the historical value of it is immeasurable.

I would sell my first born to have one !



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[Muaddib]

Originally Posted by Giccin

What would you guys recommend for a beginner's pistol? And.. around the 400-500 range.

I saw a rugar 1911 for 550 but not sure whether or not to bite...

If you want a .45 i would go for the Ruger sr1911 (For that price range). But personally i would get for a glock 19 or a Ruger sp101 in .357.