Let's talk about those turn signals?

[dragoontwo]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

Anecdotally, the first time I used this CC stalk design it was in a Porsche.

Mine was in a 1992 Subaru.

[tiger1964]

Originally Posted by timurrrr

Anecdotally, the first time I used this CC stalk design it was in a Porsche.

And speaking of "backwards", when my wife drives the Boxster, there's the issue of finding the "LeMans" ignition switch... on the left.

[jvincent]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

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That and the digital clock with the m and h buttons.

I'm going to miss my digital clock.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by jvincent

I'm going to miss my digital clock.

Retrofit it!

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Sasquachulator

Toyota must be onto something with their cruise control stalk being in the bottom right spoke of the steering wheel (and has been the exact same thing, in the exact same location and functioned exactly the same for ages). And has been used in every toyota and Lexus product in existence until these recent generation of cars where they started moving the CC to its own steering wheel buttons like every carmaker out there.

that is KISS philosophy at work right there.

That and the digital clock with the m and h buttons.

I love that cruise. Instant response for up and down.
The clock is just funny with it’s 1992 Dollar Store look.

[Sasquachulator]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I love that cruise. Instant response for up and down.
The clock is just funny with it’s 1992 Dollar Store look.

Theres also the gated shifter, or shifter fonts in the AT cars and a whole whack of switchgear lol.

Everyone complains about silly things like that but dammit they just work!

[OkieSnuffBox]

Originally Posted by Yoshoobaroo

The turn signals on my BMW are stupid bright. I joke that BMW got tired of the stereotypes and put the brightest LEDs they could in there to make sure people notice when they’re on.

Doesn't matter how bright they are if they never get used.

*says the guy who has owned 4 BMWs.

[racingfool]

Originally Posted by LanceLane174

And truly all cars should generally function the same.
Muscle memory doesn't allow for us to change things depending on the car we are driving that day.

Steering that changes feel depending on speed is horrible IMO.
Push a sport button and the same car feels completely different.

I drove a Fiat 124 when I was young.
The window crank rotates the opposite direction from all other cars.
You have any idea how many times I've broken the cable and had to replace it?

[EndlessAzure]

Fords and other cars have had this feature for a long time.


For the 1st gen, you could add this with a tap-turn module. I use it all the time for lane change

[Simmons]

So many cars and suv's have the same type of turn signals. It's not a big deal at all.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by racingfool

Steering that changes feel depending on speed is horrible IMO.

Have you tried steering that changes ratio based on speed? Like BMW’s active steering? IF it’s well tuned it can be fantastic and feel really natural. It’s one of those things that you don’t really notice until you’re looking for it or someone points it out.

[dragoontwo]

Originally Posted by EndlessAzure

Fords and other cars have had this feature for a long time.


For the 1st gen, you could add this with a tap-turn module. I use it all the time for lane change

I think you're misunderstanding. The turn signal stalk in the new car has no detents. It will return to center immediately no matter how far you push it.

[Yoshoobaroo]

Originally Posted by dragoontwo

I think you're misunderstanding. The turn signal stalk in the new car has no detents. It will return to center immediately no matter how far you push it.

You can still feel the ‘click’, past which you activate the turn signal, the stalk just returns to neutral afterwards. The ‘click’ is a decent way before the end of travel. To cancel you push the lever in either direction without going past the ‘click’. That’s what most people get wrong.

Bumping the stalk without going past the ‘click’ is also the way the 1-touch triple blink works.

[Ernest72]

Originally Posted by LanceLane174

I think the real point is that all Subarus should function the same. When I get into my Legacy or Forester now I will have to think differently. It really is kind of stupid for them to change on just one of their cars.

And truly all cars should generally function the same. Muscle memory doesn't allow for us to change things depending on the car we are driving that day.

I agree. Fixing problems that don’t exist. Never thought about cheapness in a turn signal. My wife’s IS300 is annoying as hell.