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Hm... from the spec, I prefer NA... but SC would be nice too. Love the sound of BOV of TC too... BUT this one I gonna go with NA
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Oh, to clarify, I was talking about a roots-type blower. Centrifugal blowers make peak boost even later than turbos (although they have a higher potnetial top end).
If I had to pick one, I'd pick a slightly oversized roots over either a centrifugal S/C or turbo (although a twin turbo set-up would also be nice). Of course, whoever said twin charging (I assume meaning roots S/C + big turbine)definitely has the right idea -- the best of both worlds! |
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if i had the money I'd probably twincharge it
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Votes are pretty even right now
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Supercharger because I love the instant response on NA, but long for more torque. Laggies are a no no for me. If I dragged or raced a lot then turbos for more power but I don't so SC= torque low and preserves the high revving nature up high
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Have any of you guys crying about lag driven a car with a modern turbo?
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True. And with the better turbos we have now it's really not necessary unless I want a huge turbo.
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Ehh even a small, fast spooling turbo will tend to make boost at least a few 100 RPM later than a comparably sized belt driven roots blower. Perception of lag is relative.
The small turbo will also tend to run out of breath, and have a humpier torque curve. This is why twin turbos and twincharger set ups are still quite popular. Turbos are a lot better than they used to be, but you will still see flatter torque curves with a roots blower, pretty much without exception. Turbos definitely rule the roost when it comes to top end tho'. |
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I'll ask again, Ever driven a modern Turbo car?
Roots blowers obviously get on boost sooner, but really, if you look at the trade offs it really does not make sense in a non V engine config. Speaking of which, how do you really plan to put a roots blower on a flat 4? |
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Turbos may not lag very much any more but they still lag a little. It's just their nature. There just isnt that instantaneous throttle response of an NA setup or blower. No argument over which is more efficient or overall a better setup for performance numbers though.
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want to know a secret fix for "lag"? DOWNSHIFT.
throttle response has nothing to do with turbo lag. there is a difference between throttle response and boost response. a good driver will be in the proper gear for conditions, and thus, this whole lag argument is moot. -Mike
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