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Old 05-12-2015, 01:44 PM   #2703
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So I recently had some issues at the track with my brakes and wanted to see if anyone can give me any idea of what it can be.

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KW V3 Coilovers
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At Buttonwillow mid first session the front straight i start braking before turn #1 and i feel my brake pedal pulsating but the brakes are still holding but i get that pulsating feel and hear a grinding type noise. In any other turn the brakes are working perfectly fine no problems. Only on turn #1 would this happen all day at the track.

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I am a beginner and dont have much experience racing so i dont do the pedal dance. Possible being ABS kicking in? But no lights are flashing or anything while braking. This is also the first time i been to buttonwillow. I have used these brake pads twice before at streets of willow and never experience any problems but this was the first time i had the rpf1's and rs3's compared to using stock tires in the past if that makes any difference.

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Old 05-12-2015, 01:53 PM   #2704
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So I recently had some issues at the track with my brakes and wanted to see if anyone can give me any idea of what it can be.

My Current Setup:

KW V3 Coilovers
Project Mu Club Racer Brake Pads Front & Rear
Endless Brake Fluid
Enkei RPF1 w/ Hankook RS3 Tires


At Buttonwillow mid first session the front straight i start braking before turn #1 and i feel my brake pedal pulsating but the brakes are still holding but i get that pulsating feel and hear a grinding type noise. In any other turn the brakes are working perfectly fine no problems. Only on turn #1 would this happen all day at the track.

Some other info about me and my car.

I am a beginner and dont have much experience racing so i dont do the pedal dance. Possible being ABS kicking in? But no lights are flashing or anything while braking. This is also the first time i been to buttonwillow. I have used these brake pads twice before at streets of willow and never experience any problems but this was the first time i had the rpf1's and rs3's compared to using stock tires in the past if that makes any difference.

Thanks in advance for any help.
Which car were you in? I was there...

It sounds like it is probably ABS.
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Old 05-12-2015, 02:13 PM   #2705
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Yep, my bad. Edited my post, flat horsepower, decreasing torque curve. Nothing is stopping me. That is my plan. 14 psi at 4000 RPM and as I reach my horsepower limit I start bleeding off the boost to produce a flat horespower curve.
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Old 05-12-2015, 03:47 PM   #2706
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Which car were you in? I was there...

It sounds like it is probably ABS.
I was with the red FR-S. I was thinking it can possibly be the ABS but I have never experienced that before for explain racing at Streets of Willow or Big Willow never had a issue like that.
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:38 AM   #2707
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@CSG Mike I'm planning my first track day for this summer. Exact location is tbd based on work schedule. Somewhere in the Birmingham/Atlanta region. My car is basically stock. My question is in regards to tires. I'm currently on 246/40/17 hankook v12 eco 2. A buddy recommended having a new set ready after hitting a small local track. For a total novice would u recommend using my 17x9 rays 57 extremes or the stock wheels and what tires would u suggest? Of course being my first event I'm not looking to set records just improve my skills. Thank you in advance.
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Old 05-14-2015, 07:38 AM   #2708
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@CSG Mike I'm planning my first track day for this summer. Exact location is tbd based on work schedule. Somewhere in the Birmingham/Atlanta region. My car is basically stock. My question is in regards to tires. I'm currently on 246/40/17 hankook v12 eco 2. A buddy recommended having a new set ready after hitting a small local track. For a total novice would u recommend using my 17x9 rays 57 extremes or the stock wheels and what tires would u suggest? Of course being my first event I'm not looking to set records just improve my skills. Thank you in advance.
If your tires have at least 5/32" tread left, you most likely won't need new tires.

At this point, it won't really matter which tires you run, but if you're not planning on ever using your stock tires again, then you might as well put the wear and tear on those.
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Old 05-14-2015, 12:36 PM   #2710
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Hi Mike,

A quick question. Does a bucket seat lower the seating position? The top of my helmet is almost touching the ceiling and it gets a bit uncomfy after 3-4 sessions. I can live with it but I may considering getting a new seat later this year.

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Old 05-15-2015, 12:10 PM   #2711
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what's the user feedback on the willwood 6 piston brake kit for track use ?
It is a bit cheaper than the AP kit, larger rotor...

everybody here seems to be picking the AP kit, but willwood looks pretty nice as well on paper.
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Old 05-15-2015, 11:22 PM   #2712
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Hi Mike,

A quick question. Does a bucket seat lower the seating position? The top of my helmet is almost touching the ceiling and it gets a bit uncomfy after 3-4 sessions. I can live with it but I may considering getting a new seat later this year.

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It sure can, but keep in mind you'll be compromising your airbag.
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what's the user feedback on the willwood 6 piston brake kit for track use ?
It is a bit cheaper than the AP kit, larger rotor...

everybody here seems to be picking the AP kit, but willwood looks pretty nice as well on paper.
Not something I'd run on my own car.
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Old 05-16-2015, 05:03 PM   #2714
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what's the user feedback on the willwood 6 piston brake kit for track use ?
It is a bit cheaper than the AP kit, larger rotor...

everybody here seems to be picking the AP kit, but willwood looks pretty nice as well on paper.
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what's the user feedback on the willwood 6 piston brake kit for track use ?
It is a bit cheaper than the AP kit, larger rotor...

everybody here seems to be picking the AP kit, but willwood looks pretty nice as well on paper.
Maybe larger not thicker.

Check this thread comparison
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27300
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Very interesting, anyone tried this combo:
-stock calipers
-Aftermarket Discs
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How feels on the track and street also
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Old 05-16-2015, 08:24 PM   #2716
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Very interesting, anyone tried this combo:
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How feels on the track and street also
Rotors won't make a difference on the street. My stock rotors were grooved after many track days, so I decided to upgrade to slotted ones to see if they improved cooling or extended pad life. Had DBA 4000 T3 Slotted rotors for ~9 months, with ProjectMu Club Racer pads, and later 999. RBF660 and SS lines, no fade during 20 minute sessions at the track, but pads were only lasting 4, maybe 5 events. Eventually upgraded to AP Racing Sprint BBK for costs reasons (marginally more expensive pads yet 2-3x the life).

One thing I liked about the DBA rotors was the heat paint markings, mine indicated rotors temps between 850F-1000F, which according to DBA meant I should upgrade my brake system:
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If your driving conditions force the Orange paint to change to yellow then you should consider more a specialized high temperature pad compound, review the car setup or alter your driving style.

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