Toyota to scrap Scion brand, but FR-S will become a Toyota!

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

And will also make it more expensive, probably by a large margin.

That argument is getting old. Fact is, that's a big reason why the car wasn't a huge hit in the states.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by fumanchu1

Just the logo stamp change on a single part could potentially void a contract(depending on the terms) or increase costs significantly or increase production time/backorder

But none of that would need to change. My "Scion" has more Subaru stamps on it than it does Toyota or Scion. I'm literally just talking about the Scion badges on the car. They are already a mix of Subaru/Toyota/Scion stamped parts and such so all that could play out as is.

[strat61caster]

Originally Posted by RRnold

However, having the Subaru association and not a true Toyota, it'll be a classic but not a legend.

Quick, someone start working on a cartoon set in the future with 86's against future sports cars with todays ridiculous hybrid powertrains.

[MrFisty]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

That argument is getting old. Fact is, that's a big reason why the car wasn't a huge hit in the states.

But it's still true. I agree that more power would have helped, but I question (because of the age of frs owners) how many sale they would have lost compared to what they would have gained. In some ways, in amaerica, the people who want RWD and power consider only two options. One is a horse, and the other wears a bow tie.

I don't think we can know for sure how much better it would have worked out. They won have ended up competing for buyers of the 370z, stolen some genesis buyers, and taken more v6 mustant/Camara buyers maybe.
I do think they might have had better sales, I just don't know by how much, and if it's as big as many seem to think it would have been.

If the car was 5,000 more, I personally could not have afforded it.

[Quentin]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

That argument is getting old. Fact is, that's a big reason why the car wasn't a huge hit in the states.

Production capacity and the fact it is a world car has a lot to do with why it is a 2.0L making 200hp. What would boost sales in the US doesn't necessarily work with the ROW.


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[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by gymratter

This looks like it will coincide with the 2017 facelift model.

I was think the same thing.

[ricotheraccoon]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

No change, press release said so, and it was serviced by Toyota anyway.

Whoops, overread that. And I kinda figured they were covered by Toyota anyway.

Thanks

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by MrFisty

But it's still true. I agree that more power would have helped, but I question (because of the age of frs owners) how many sale they would have lost compared to what they would have gained. In some ways, in amaerica, the people who want RWD and power consider only two options. One is a horse, and the other wears a bow tie.

I don't think we can know for sure how much better it would have worked out. They won have ended up competing for buyers of the 370z, stolen some genesis buyers, and taken more v6 mustant/Camara buyers maybe.
I do think they might have had better sales, I just don't know by how much, and if it's as big as many seem to think it would have been.

If the car was 5,000 more, I personally could not have afforded it.

It already cost more than what they originally aimed at and it has ballooned up since then. I would argue about what people consider, as there is a wide range of available RWD vehicles with power right now. I know of a few potential buyers that turned away after a test drive. I know I did on my first test drive.

[Summerwolf]

Originally Posted by Quentin

Production capacity and the fact it is a world car has a lot to do with why it is a 2.0L making 200hp. What would boost sales in the US doesn't necessarily work with the ROW.


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While it might not be as big a deal as it is here, it has been a "normal" observation the world round noting the cars power.

[FRSteve91]

Anyone know what will happen to the value of our FRSs?

[c4lvinnn]

Originally Posted by Summerwolf

It already cost more than what they originally aimed at and it has ballooned up since then. I would argue about what people consider, as there is a wide range of available RWD vehicles with power right now. I know of a few potential buyers that turned away after a test drive. I know I did on my first test drive.

Because that's what 'merica cares about.

[funwheeldrive]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

Quick, someone start working on a cartoon set in the future with 86's against future sports cars with todays ridiculous hybrid powertrains.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by FRSteve91

Anyone know what will happen to the value of our FRSs?

It may depend on what will happen with the face lift 86. Will it look better or worst? Will it have a small power bumper? Will it have any interior upgrades and new tech? Will the price go up? I think its too early to tell.

[NyC Zn6]

Originally Posted by Dadhawk

But not of that would need to change. My "Scion" has more Subaru stamps on it than it does Toyota or Scion. I'm literally just talking about the Scion badges on the car. They are already a mix of Subaru/Toyota/Scion stamped parts and such so all that could play out as is.

i can see you are all about that Fallout life now.