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BlaineWasHere · 11-15-2015, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb

Any ideas to combat inside rear wheel lift?
I am on feal coilovers 7k/7k, everything else pretty stock.
2.9 camber all around, I know that is too much in the rear.
0 toe front. tiny bit toe in rear.
Front bar? Increase shock stiffness front? and softer rear?

You need a front bar anyway. So I would start there.

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renfield90 · 11-15-2015, 02:35 PM

As an alternative you could disconnect the rear sway bar, but you'll probably have a better car by upgrading the front.

strat61caster · 11-15-2015, 05:56 PM

Detaching the rear bar is pretty common for Miatas, might make sense for you swarb just as a test, you should be able to reattach in between runs if it's bad. How low are you? Maybe the rear bar is preloaded creating some weird forces, adjustable endlinks might be the solution?

swarb · 11-15-2015, 06:39 PM

I am lowered about 1.5-1.75 inches(I know too low, but I wanna look cool!).
The coilovers came with front end links about 2inches shorter. The rear ones are stock. They rear endlinks are pre-loaded a little too much sadly. How should I preload? 0 at static height? or slightly?
I guess I will try a front sway bar and some rear end links. Anyone know a factory endlink(wrx?) that is slightly shorter than stock?
Whiteline for sway bar or? I want an adjustable and probably just slightly bigger.

BlaineWasHere · 11-15-2015, 06:57 PM

I ran stock endlinks for a bit with the Strano bar but because I so low (2 inches) I had to get whiteline links for clearance.

But I'm lower than you and I don't lift any tires ever.

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strat61caster · 11-15-2015, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swarb

I am lowered about 1.5-1.75 inches(I know too low, but I wanna look cool!).
The coilovers came with front end links about 2inches shorter. The rear ones are stock. They rear endlinks are pre-loaded a little too much sadly. How should I preload? 0 at static height? or slightly?
I guess I will try a front sway bar and some rear end links. Anyone know a factory endlink(wrx?) that is slightly shorter than stock?
Whiteline for sway bar or? I want an adjustable and probably just slightly bigger.

I always did mine with zero preload when sitting on a level surface, everything should come apart and go together with zero resistance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlaineWasHere

I ran stock endlinks for a bit with the Strano bar but because I so low (2 inches) I had to get whiteline links for clearance.

But I'm lower than you and I don't lift any tires ever.

Lots of variables at play here... Might also be driving style, still on the brakes to get weight up front whilst turning would make the car do this, but this isn't an FF or the stock suspension where you need to force the front to grip. Dialing back on the trail braking may settle the car better.

jprice130 · 11-16-2015, 08:58 AM

Sorry to interrupt the technical discussion, but I just wanted to put in a plug for my Nameless header that is for sale in case someone is looking for some STX goodies for next season:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97529

Shark_Bait88 · 11-18-2015, 02:45 PM

I think I've become addicted to buying parts that I don't plan to install for several more months. Perhaps I should start one of those build thread things....

cjd · 11-18-2015, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

I think I've become addicted to buying parts that I don't plan to install for several more months. Perhaps I should start one of those build thread things....

I started last November... It's when good stuff shows up FS.

48Spoons · 11-18-2015, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Bait88

I think I've become addicted to buying parts that I don't plan to install for several more months. Perhaps I should start one of those build thread things....

Bought most of my STX setup last black friday, hurt to wait till around spring to get everything installed.

Shark_Bait88 · 11-18-2015, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 48Spoons

Bought most of my STX setup last black friday, hurt to wait till around spring to get everything installed.

Yeah, the only other thing I plan to get before spring will be camber plates for the new coilovers. I'll figure out the sway bar setup after I see how the car feels with the new suspension at my first event next year.

conedodging · 11-19-2015, 01:25 PM

Fun. Our PAX jumps up by .005 to .836 next season. Thanks everyone.

http://solotime.info/pax/rtp2016.html

RedBRZ80 · 11-19-2015, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by conedodging

Fun. Our PAX jumps up by .005 to .836 next season. Thanks everyone.

http://solotime.info/pax/rtp2016.html

That's the "Marcus effect ". When STX raw times STR. You know pax will change.

But all street tire classes went up- the RE71 effect.

justinco · 11-19-2015, 11:03 PM

Yea, pretty much everything is up.

STX has gone up the last 2 years too, can't say I was surprised by another increase. I blame the twins coming onto the scene

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