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Old 04-18-2021, 02:48 PM   #1765
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FWIW, publix employees are being given gift cards after their second shots.
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They seem pretty clear to me. Broadly paraquoting them, "If you're fully vaccinated (complete course of vaccine + two weeks) continue to wear your mask and practice social distancing. When you're among other fully vaccinated people it's ok to let your hair down a little but the pandemic is not over. Don't act as though it is."

That is my reading of what I see from the CDC and the "powers that be." It is, I think, good advice,, so I am taking it.
Yeah, I agree.

The problem is a majority of people probably don’t read that like we do. They look to the media and other sources to get their info. Some even get it from their social circles.
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Media especially. This thing has been a cash cow for them. Politicians have gotten some mileage out of it as well.
So are you saying the media has the power to keep people from getting vaccinated? And that the media is controlling which parts of the country and world are getting waves right now?
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Yeah, I agree.

The problem is a majority of people probably don’t read that like we do. They look to the media and other sources to get their info. Some even get it from their social circles.
My parents were doing this kind of shit before I finally beat it into their heads that's the worst place to get any news.
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So are you saying the media has the power to keep people from getting vaccinated? And that the media is controlling which parts of the country and world are getting waves right now?
I think he is forgetting that correlation does not always mean causation.
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So are you saying the media has the power to keep people from getting vaccinated? And that the media is controlling which parts of the country and world are getting waves right now?
I know it sounds silly, but it's not too farfetched. The media, whether it be social media, news outlets, or local, have very much shifted the thoughts and decisions of people for quiet a while. Why do you think the anti-vaccine groups skyrocketed in the recent decade? They can spread their myths and hoaxes all over the world with the simple click of a button.
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I'm not qualified for that one
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I don't think anyone is.
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The media outlets maintain viewership through polarization. The vaccine and covid are things they can use for this.
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So are you saying the media has the power to keep people from getting vaccinated? And that the media is controlling which parts of the country and world are getting waves right now?
the media has a lot more power than you apparently think.

for a very long time, my parents and grandparents would stay inside if the news weatherman said it was going to rain. even if it was sunny, with no clouds all day.

they finally started doing their own due diligence once they got tired of me laughing at them.

i noticed it the most around the time of george floyd. of course, there's always been those undercurrents and situations within our nation, but there was really nothing specifically different other than media attention(news, and social) about that situation over thousands of similar situations that happened in years before.

most people seem to recognize and acknowledge that the monoliths of the internet have created echo chambers of interest groups. i see it all the time in my youtube recomendations-- it keeps recommending video's from the same content creators, because it's what i like. but i also know there's got to be more than 10 people generating content for youtube. as time goes on, youtube's history with me becomes more complete, and it becomes harder and harder for me to search for content outside of that which i've already expressed an interest in.

i've actually gone to using bing from time to time to search for things simply because it has less of my past, and will generate more 'raw' results sometimes.

the problems with echo chambers is a lack of progress from where one already stands. which is ironic, as all these recent echo chambers are all about progress moving from where we stand...
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India’s capital New Delhi recorded 25,500 coronavirus cases in a 24-hour period, with about one in three people tested returning a positive result, its chief minister said, urging the federal government to provide more hospital beds to tackle the crisis.
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Yeah, I was curious what part of it Lantana was referring to.

Virtually every media has been and can be used to manipulate the population.

I just also know some people think all media is working together behind the scenes.

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the media has a lot more power than you apparently think.

for a very long time, my parents and grandparents would stay inside if the news weatherman said it was going to rain. even if it was sunny, with no clouds all day.

they finally started doing their own due diligence once they got tired of me laughing at them.

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i've actually gone to using bing from time to time to search for things simply because it has less of my past, and will generate more 'raw' results sometimes.

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...I just also know some people think all media is working together behind the scenes.
i don't really believe that they're actively working together so much as once one group stumbles on a foolproof method to improve their ratings and by extension financial earnings, it's only a matter of time before the other groups start to question why their methods aren't working as efficiently and adopt similar methods.

again with the youtube examples-- when i go incognito, many of the 'recommended channels' previews are turning to the caveman look of shock(can't think of the technical term for it) to garner interest in their channel. the effect spans a number of different categories on youtube, so they're obviously not all working together, but the effect is prevalent enough to make one wonder sometimes..
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