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Old 07-04-2014, 11:39 AM   #1597
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how low do you guys sit?


I'm finding that I'm slowly inching my way higher and higher for better vision and control


I'm 5'11" and have recently went as high as the roofline will let me with the helmet on, and at times feel like I want to go higher.


driving on the floor, especially at autocross, seems to make it rather difficult for me to look ahead and really sense the road, as most of the time the front pillar is exactly where I want to be looking.


how do the rest of you feel about your seating position in the FRS?
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Old 07-04-2014, 11:40 AM   #1598
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I'm 5'10" but have a longish torso, and my helmet was bumping the roof.
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Old 07-04-2014, 12:24 PM   #1599
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how low do you guys sit?


I'm finding that I'm slowly inching my way higher and higher for better vision and control


I'm 5'11" and have recently went as high as the roofline will let me with the helmet on, and at times feel like I want to go higher.


driving on the floor, especially at autocross, seems to make it rather difficult for me to look ahead and really sense the road, as most of the time the front pillar is exactly where I want to be looking.


how do the rest of you feel about your seating position in the FRS?

For DD I love to sit limbo low, nostril hairs barely above the steering wheel.

But, like you when tracking, the seat back goes up, not only for vision but to to take the g-forces more comfortably by sitting more upright.

So far I haven't been on a bumpy enough track to hit the roof with my helmet, and I'm over 6 ft.



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Old 07-04-2014, 12:34 PM   #1600
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Lost the clutch on the ITR yesterday at Road America. It's stock with 137k miles. It won't disengage anymore. Hoping there's no damage to the transmission. Still being diagnosed right now.

Besides frequent fluid changes, what other preventative things can you do to prevent being stranded in the middle of no where? Towing your own vehicle to the track would be ideal, but the cost/benefit isn't there since I don't frequently to go the track.

On the bright side, it's pretty impressive that this 14 year old engine with 137k still pulls pretty hard. Not an easy task to survive 4 20 minute sessions back to back days.
That's pretty good, and about expected life out of the clutch. If they have it apart, you'll want to do flywheel (resurface maybe), clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing and if it was me, I'd split the trans case open and replace the input shaft bearing. I've had great luck with Exedy clutches.
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how low do you guys sit?

I'm finding that I'm slowly inching my way higher and higher for better vision and control

I'm 5'11" and have recently went as high as the roofline will let me with the helmet on, and at times feel like I want to go higher.

driving on the floor, especially at autocross, seems to make it rather difficult for me to look ahead and really sense the road, as most of the time the front pillar is exactly where I want to be looking.

how do the rest of you feel about your seating position in the FRS?
There are quite a few videos on youtube about about seating position. Sounds like you're finding out that a more upright seating position gives you better car control. This is a huge factor in how well you drive. The laid back "cruising" style doesn't cut it.

I have the seat as low as possible, back of the seat upright. My elbows are around 90 degrees or so when holding the steering wheel. My knees are slightly bent when depressing the throttle or clutch all the way.

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I am 6 foot so with a helmet and the stock seats I wasn't able to sit upright. Since then I have replaced the seats with race seats and in the process gotten lower. I can say now with alot of certainty that my preference is for a very upright position with my butt as low to the ground as possible. Getting so low just helps me feel the motion of the car better. My position is maybe and inch and a half lower than the stock seat's lowest position (hard to say exactly but it is a good amount lower).
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Old 07-04-2014, 01:06 PM   #1603
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There are quite a few videos on youtube about about seating position. Sounds like you're finding out that a more upright seating position gives you better car control. This is a huge factor in how well you drive. The laid back "cruising" style doesn't cut it.

i am aware of seating position...


i am talking about seat height


two different things.


I am asking for opinions that given a choice, do you sit low or high in this car.
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I have the seat as low as possible, I'm 6'2" there appears to be enough room for a helmet. I'll know this weekend.

It also depends on your height, being able to see is important. How upright is your seatback?
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There are quite a few videos on youtube about about seating position. Sounds like you're finding out that a more upright seating position gives you better car control. This is a huge factor in how well you drive. The laid back "cruising" style doesn't cut it.

I have the seat as low as possible, back of the seat upright. My elbows are around 90 degrees or so when holding the steering wheel. My knees are slightly bent when depressing the throttle or clutch all the way.

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i am aware of seating position...


i am talking about seat height


two different things.


I am asking for opinions that given a choice, do you sit low or high in this car.
(This is all assuming track driving, not street driving)

I want my butt as close to the ground as I can get it so I can feel more of the car's motion. Seeing things just over the hood doesn't matter; I can't do anything about those things. If you are feeling like you need your eyes at the roof so you can see more then you are looking at the wrong things.
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(This is all assuming track driving, not street driving)

I want my butt as close to the ground as I can get it so I can feel more of the car's motion. Seeing things just over the hood doesn't matter; I can't do anything about those things. If you are feeling like you need your eyes at the roof so you can see more then you are looking at the wrong things.

ever sat in a Miata?




I'm looking ahead, and find the car has too many obstructions. I feel that i have to trust myself and the car more rather than knowing with 100% certainty where i am.


i find this is a general issue with modern cars, the pillars are very thick and the window lines very deep, it's not as easy to figure out the car's dimensions as it is in older cars. YMMV.
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ever sat in a Miata?
Ever sat in a Super 7? I can place the palm of my hand flat on the ground when seated in one
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Ever sat in a Super 7? I can place the palm of my hand flat on the ground when seated in one
yeah!


I know some super 7 and dwarf owners. There is something to be said about being able to see your wheels actuate over bumps.
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I know some super 7 and dwarf owners. There is something to be said about being able to see your wheels actuate over bumps.
They sure are easy to place where you want them, especially with cones involved.

One day I want my garage to hold a Miata, BRZ and Super 7, nothing more.
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