Downshift vs neutral roll

[kwest.papajohns]

Skip barber racing school = best mod you'll ever do on a car
heel toe downshifting all day

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Who seriously uses a spanner?

Anybody with a set of tools.

Spanner = British for "Wrench"

[pushrod]

Originally Posted by FLYFISHR

Just to throw a spanner into the works �� What about all that wear and tear on the throw out bearing by coasting with the clutch pedal depressed?

I never hold on the clutch, unless it's nearly "go time", or if I need to be on alert for some reason. Otherwise, any neutral action is done by being in neutral.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Celica00

How many RPMs of give do you have when you blip? for example if I wanted to downshift into 4th and ideally that would be perfect at 4,000 RPM. Could it still feel somewhat smooth at 3,800-4,200 RPM? When practicing this, my biggest hang up is revving correctly. This could also mean i'm doing it too slowly

Stop thinking about it and just do it. If you're thinking about it, you'll miss the timing so that even if you match the revs perfectly to where you wanted them, the transmission input won't be turning at that speed any more, so it won't match after all.

When I was learning to rev match, I had to change the way I thought about it. Instead of worrying about the exact RPM to hit, I started thinking of the transmission input speed as a hook moving down and the engine RPM as a ring. Then I just used the accelerator pedal to toss that ring up there so that it hooked on the transmission speed. If I tossed it too hard or too soft, it wouldn't work.

If you were playing a ring toss game in real life, you wouldn't sit there trying to calculate the speed of the ring and the speed of the hook and the distance between them and the wind direction and velocity. You'd just toss it up there and miss. Then you'd adjust by feel until you tossed it just right to catch on the ring. Soon you'd be able to do it every time.

Ring toss in a car is the same, except that the hook is moving a different speed in each gear. So downshifting into 4th takes a lower toss of the ring, while going into 2nd takes a higher one. You just keep tossing those engine RPM up onto the transmission by feel, and eventually you'll just do it without thinking about it.

[FLYFISHR]

Originally Posted by Ashikabi

Who seriously uses a spanner? Who are you, Chewbacca?

It's just an expression/saying

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by FLYFISHR

It's just an expression/saying

The US version of that saying is "wrench in the works." As culturally isolated as us Amurkins are from the rest of the world, it's not surprising some of us wouldn't know it unless we watched a lot of Doctor Who.

[c4lvinnn]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

Stop thinking about it and just do it. If you're thinking about it, you'll miss the timing so that even if you match the revs perfectly to where you wanted them, the transmission input won't be turning at that speed any more, so it won't match after all.

When I was learning to rev match, I had to change the way I thought about it. Instead of worrying about the exact RPM to hit, I started thinking of the transmission input speed as a hook moving down and the engine RPM as a ring. Then I just used the accelerator pedal to toss that ring up there so that it hooked on the transmission speed. If I tossed it too hard or too soft, it wouldn't work.

If you were playing a ring toss game in real life, you wouldn't sit there trying to calculate the speed of the ring and the speed of the hook and the distance between them and the wind direction and velocity. You'd just toss it up there and miss. Then you'd adjust by feel until you tossed it just right to catch on the ring. Soon you'd be able to do it every time.

Ring toss in a car is the same, except that the hook is moving a different speed in each gear. So downshifting into 4th takes a lower toss of the ring, while going into 2nd takes a higher one. You just keep tossing those engine RPM up onto the transmission by feel, and eventually you'll just do it without thinking about it.

This.

It's all by feel. too many variables to give you an specific "amount" of blip, especially depending on your deceleration rate.

[stugray]

Originally Posted by extrashaky

The US version of that saying is "wrench in the works." As culturally isolated as us Amurkins are from the rest of the world, it's not surprising some of us wouldn't know it unless we watched a lot of Doctor Who.

And "Adjustable Spanner" is actually much more descriptive than "crescent wrench".


Now don't get me started on Al-U-Mini-um.
The brits version of the pronunciation is actually correct for the element Aluminium. (funny spell checker is trying to 'fix' my spelling right there...)


However the alloy that we are all familiar with is pronounced Al-oo-Min-um in Murica.

[pushrod]

Originally Posted by stugray

However the alloy that we are all familiar with is pronounced Al-oo-Min-um in Murica.

The alloy, or any alloy?

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by pushrod

The alloy, or any alloy?

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by stugray

(funny spell checker is trying to 'fix' my spelling right there...)

Spell checker want's to change about 10% of what I type. It really, really hates colour.

[fumanchu1]

or anything with iser or yser

analyse, nope analyze
recognise nope recognize

Think americans just felt bad for the z being used so little.

also it's pronounce ""zed" not "zee"

[Ultramaroon]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

Spell checker want's to change about 10% of what I type. It really, really hates colour.

Soooo... it's working properly.

[Tcoat]

Originally Posted by Ultramaroon

Soooo... it's working properly.

Well it seems to believe I is a 'Murican.