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I don't understand the woke marketing strategy for evs. The demographic seemingly targeted will never be able to afford a 50 grand ev by smashing storefronts and looting walmarts.
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That’s very true. It will largely depend on who is elected, whether companies move forward regardless, and the reality of whatever happens. If oil production flattens and then oil prices spike, and if renewables stay cheaper, then regardless of who is in office, things will keep progressing. Musk is cozy with Republican candidates, so I don’t see his business going anywhere, even if federal incentives go away.
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You don’t need to loot many stores to afford a Tesla. Factor in the savings from gas and maintenance to the federal and state subsidies, and the car might be sub $20k. In California, the Tesla Model 3 Is Now Cheaper Than a Toyota Camry https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/t...ry-california/
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A lot of older people are buying teslas. I know that. Mostly for the driving experience, not virtue signaling. They however don't spend as much on makeup as a middle aged drag queen. Please, no ai responses on the demographics of makeup consumers.
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the only way to change it is for a large amount of young people to buy, and there's simply not a ton of young people with new car money--scion was toyota's best chance at lowering that statistic, and they failed pretty miserably. especially once the xb gained traction with old people for being easy to get in/out of. the 'old people' problem is just reality. 40-60 is when people finally have enough disposable income to get whatever they want brand new, instead of buying used the majority of the time. i've never heard of anyone loving the prius because of the reduced range, but everyone loves the prius for the rear hatch, lack of noise, and comfortable ride, and how the hybrid feature saves on gas..
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There is some value in knowing what sells used, but used stats changes nothing in terms of what is produced new. Dealers might care a little about "certified used" vehicles, but the OEMs don't. I understand used sales may help drive new sales. Have a good used experience you might buy that same brand new next time. However, that doesn't change what is sold new, just how much reliability is built into it.
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Again, the share of cars purchased by older demographics has increased fifteen points in a short period and continues to go up. This is probably a reflection of the growing income divide and the general rising cost of car ownership. I don’t see those trends changing, which suggests that the older demographics will be influencing much of the car market. As such is the case, EVs are more likely to fit into that demographic, even though we think of modern technology being favored by younger demographics; it is, but they just don’t have money for new cars. With that said, the Tesla Model 3 is cheaper that a $26k Camry or 86 for that matter, so cost should be less of a factor with all the subsidies.
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One of my sons just purchased a new Honda Accord. Because he has been fiscally responsible, has not debt and was "only" putting down $10,000, his credit score wasn't good enough to buy it on his own. If you look at the vehicle it appears I am the primary purchaser so likely it fell into this trap.
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Toyota woke up and chose aggression. Apparently they will be trying to beat Tesla at Tesla's own game.
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