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Old 05-17-2013, 09:59 AM   #85
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I think I always got a little fume smell too after spirited runs before catch can. The PCV connection to Throttle Body is not clamped, maybe a little bit of leakage there?
Something like that is the only thing that makes sense. I've been busy today but i'll have a look at clamping that one and any others that aren't solid.
I might end up replacing the hoses just to eliminate it.

The dip stick is well placed to drip oil on the exhaust when you check it. I've done that and it stinks for a while with just one drop on the heat shield.

The catch can looks very classy. That's a huge dia. breather pipe.
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That's a huge dia. breather pipe.
Yeah, 1.5" ID dia!!
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With any open element releasing oil vapor into an engine bay there will always be some smells, with ac in recirculate it rids this problem for the most part. For those who would like to have ac not on recirculate we are working on a relocation option, it will be built from mandrel bent aluminum tubing that matches the catch can finish. We will also have some other updates coming along as we are always using customer feedback and testing to further develop our products.

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Would be interesting to see this I like the battery mount location. I think to be competitive in the oil recirculation market to not make a catch can ,400$ custom or not custom. I want the battery recirculation kit you offer but I'm having trouble swallowing the 300 $ price tag
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Series 2 Catch Can in stock and ready to ship! Available on our website www.D3PEparts.com
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Series 2 Catch Can in stock and ready to ship! Available on our website www.D3PEparts.com
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On the first page of this thread as well as here

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Also even with a can to catch the oil, the air going into the intake stream will still have oil in it, this will coat the inside of your IC pipes or intake on a na application. We vent ours to the atmosphere, leaving your engine sucking nothing but fresh air.

They seem to be saying they are venting air with oil in it to the atmosphere.
That means on the road which is illegal and why the stock system is a closed loop.

Something like a Provent 200, made in Germany, will stop virtually all the oil and allow you to still use a closed loop by taking it back in after the airfilter but before the turbo. Mine was still dry after 40,000km and lots of oil drained off.
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Also even with a can to catch the oil, the air going into the intake stream will still have oil in it, this will coat the inside of your IC pipes or intake on a na application. We vent ours to the atmosphere, leaving your engine sucking nothing but fresh air.

They seem to be saying they are venting air with oil in it to the atmosphere.
That means on the road which is illegal and why the stock system is a closed loop.

Something like a Provent 200, made in Germany, will stop virtually all the oil and allow you to still use a closed loop by taking it back in after the airfilter but before the turbo. Mine was still dry after 40,000km and lots of oil drained off.
No oil comes out of the catch can, period. On the other hand when you route it back to your turbo inlet you do cause problems for multiple reasons. I'm not sure where some of you guys are coming up with this basic design being anything less than a fully tested and proven system over numerous years and on numerous application. There's no debating that.
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Example: take an uncapped gas can. Just because you can smell the gas does not mean there is gasoline escaping. That's the purpose of the CATCH can, to catch the oil and either hold or drain back into the engine depending on application.

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Awesome stuff! Hopefully ill be picking one of these up when I get my turbo kit installed with you guys!
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No oil comes out of the catch can, period. On the other hand when you route it back to your turbo inlet you do cause problems for multiple reasons. I'm not sure where some of you guys are coming up with this basic design being anything less than a fully tested and proven system over numerous years and on numerous application. There's no debating that.
I was quoting from the article that you posted which says oil does come out of this catch can and that's why they vent it to the atmosphere, to stop that oil going back through the intake.

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That oil is vented to the road[atmosphere]

Also even with a can to catch the oil, the air going into the intake stream will still have oil in it, this will coat the inside of your IC pipes or intake on a na application. We vent ours to the atmosphere, leaving your engine sucking nothing but fresh air.

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There is no doubt that the air that is being vented still has some oil vapor in it. I can see it in the filter and the hose I have attached to the can now. With that being said, I would rather that oil be vented to atmosphere rather than going back into my intake manifold.
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There is no doubt that the air that is being vented still has some oil vapor in it. I can see it in the filter and the hose I have attached to the can now. With that being said, I would rather that oil be vented to atmosphere rather than going back into my intake manifold.
The point is that there are catch cans which filter out 'all' the oil so that you can vent it legally, back into the intake. I had a turbo diesel and they breath more oil because they have higher compression and higher turbo boost but the Provent 200 stopped all the oil and the pipe to the intake was dry.
It's also a lot cheaper with the capacity to take much larger hoses for better flow.
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I looked up your Provent 200. It has a removable filter element inside the can and is only setup for a single in and a single out so in reality you will need two of them. The D3PE filters it before it vents to atmosphere and the Provent can either do that or filter it before it goes back into the engine. A catch can isn't rocket science, so buy the one you want.
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