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switchlanez · 02-02-2013, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AVOturboworld

The NSX is engineered as a supercar - it's designed for high speed hijinks, not the low-speed crap that is the majority of our driving in the States. The BRZ/FR-S outright excels at that stuff.

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mush · 02-02-2013, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Nsxy

Wow! Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. This is such an awesome forum.
I daily my car, because i dont believe in paying for a car and let it sit. These cars are made to driven. This is just my opinion, so please dont take it the wrong way for those of you who garage your cars. The X is fun and a great daily driver, but it's also a hassel (esp. With parking). With a baby on the way and a recently purchased house, i think im at a point where i just need somthing that i dont have to worry about so much(parking, maintenace, roads etc...) about. However, i still want a small, agile, fun to drive car thats not too expensive to own. Like some of u mentioned. Why not keep the nsx and get an frs/brz. Yes, financially i can do that, but like i said i dont want a car just for it to sit and look pretty.
I will see if i can find the twin to test drive and then mKe my decision. Thanks again for all the replies. I will keep you all posted. Thanks!

i have a daily and a garaged car, i love it, it makes it more special when i get to sit in the garaged car and drive it

thats just me tho

acro · 02-02-2013, 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nsxy

Wow! Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. This is such an awesome forum.
I daily my car, because i dont believe in paying for a car and let it sit. These cars are made to driven. This is just my opinion, so please dont take it the wrong way for those of you who garage your cars. The X is fun and a great daily driver, but it's also a hassel (esp. With parking). With a baby on the way and a recently purchased house, i think im at a point where i just need somthing that i dont have to worry about so much(parking, maintenace, roads etc...) about. However, i still want a small, agile, fun to drive car thats not too expensive to own. Like some of u mentioned. Why not keep the nsx and get an frs/brz. Yes, financially i can do that, but like i said i dont want a car just for it to sit and look pretty.
I will see if i can find the twin to test drive and then mKe my decision. Thanks again for all the replies. I will keep you all posted. Thanks!

I agree do a test drive. The FRS handling is a brilliant but it is down on power in comparison to your NSX. Will you miss that power ? only you can tell.

Xdragonxb0i · 02-02-2013, 10:01 PM

Can't you just test drive that black brz? In your avatar?
I don't think you would regret going to the twins, but I think it would be hard to let go of the nsx.

Touge Monster · 02-02-2013, 10:07 PM

Get a brz keep the nsx. I also own an sw20 mr2 turbo while its no nsx it's still a fun unique and different driving experience. I must admit my frs does pretty much everything better there is something to be said for the midengine layout.

dun3 · 02-02-2013, 11:51 PM

2 Red NSX's spotted in Oakland today, within a couple blocks of eachother... It was nuts.. And sooooooo sexy. I say, keep the NSEX, and just buy a BRZ. Garage the NSX until you get an itch to go drive it again after driving around the brz for a while. It'll be worth it.

ashtray · 02-03-2013, 04:05 AM

I drool over the NSX, though I fear my expectations would be too high. That said, I still consider buying one, but not as my only car.

Baby on the way? I'd be getting a WRX hatch instead for the same BRZ coin. A bunch of power and practicality. I have a 4yr old - he climbs in the back of my BRZ fine, but I wouldn't want to use that car for hauling a newborn. (Plus when my son was a newborn, my wife would ride in back with him - can't do that in the BRZ!)

I'm in a somewhat unique position of owning multiple cars. You say you didn't like the soft top of the S2K, but they sell hard tops. You could get a Miata (first gen) for cheap that is well kept and has a hard top. You can modify it for cheap money too - quality mods don't cost a fortune on those cars.

The BRZ... what to say? It's a great car. It's bigger than my first gen Miata. Ride is great, more power, nicer interior, more comfortable, more room. Handles great - differently than my NA, as the Miata is 500 pounds lighter and smaller, you can just dance around in that car! But the ride is more jarring. The BRZ goes where you think - almost telepathically. You move the steering wheel and the car turns - right where you expect it to. Very easy to throw around as well - like a bigger Miata, with some serious chassis rigidity!

Now I love my Miata, but the BRZ does 9 things out of 10 better. Oddly, I enjoy the Miata a little more bc there's more "connection" and "rawness" there. Less isolation. Both cars put a smile on my face.

That said, since I have the BRZ, I could sell the Miata and replace it with an NSX (ok, there's a huge price difference but lets look past that for a minute). The NSX would be my sexy exotic. Would I drive it every day? No. But 3-4x per week maybe. Or save it for a treat, or when work is stressful and I need a pick me up. It would just be awesome to park in my garage. But... the BRZ would be more practical, more space, more comfortable. Less sacrifice. Still allow my son to ride with me. If I had both in my garage, I'd drive the NSX once a week just to feel "badazz", but drive the BRZ daily.

Now I'll toss back in the WRX/kid comment - bc I own a WRX wagon (Cobb tuned and modified). Holds a ton of stuff, extremely practical. You don't realize how many thing a 6 pound baby needs that comes in large boxes! And it's not just practical, but also quick when the turbo kicks in. And the AWD is jaw dropping if you've never driven AWD in the rain. You're at a T intersection trying to turn on to a main road, and there's 100% traction. The car just moves like there's no water on the road. And when you toss it around in the wet, you get these 4 wheel drifts instead of understeer or oversteer. Can be a lot of fun while being super practical. Not so great on gas though, but better than an SUV.

So - what should YOU do? If you're bored with the NSX, sell it. Buy the BRZ. Or better yet, buy a WRX hatch and also a first gen Miata to throw around curves. In either case you're going from "cool exotic car driver" to "general public" - but at least not all the way down to "Camry or Prius owner".

I think you'd like the BRZ, but it would never be as cool as the NSX. You could always tell people you used to drive an NSX...

(And depending on how you are, when that baby comes, "car coolness" might be the last thing you care about, and "car safety" could be the only thing that matters. Those little ones are so tiny and delicate at that early age. Sure, later on they become indestructible, but the first couple years you just want to cradle them from any harm.)

st162celica · 02-03-2013, 06:39 AM

Keep the nsx.

Got me thinking.
Currently 4 nsx's for sale in aust. About 35k miles. Around $50k aud.

How much are the nsx's in the U.S ?

Deslock · 02-03-2013, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nsxy

Wow! Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. This is such an awesome forum.
I daily my car, because i dont believe in paying for a car and let it sit. These cars are made to driven. This is just my opinion, so please dont take it the wrong way for those of you who garage your cars. The X is fun and a great daily driver, but it's also a hassel (esp. With parking). With a baby on the way and a recently purchased house, i think im at a point where i just need somthing that i dont have to worry about so much(parking, maintenace, roads etc...) about. However, i still want a small, agile, fun to drive car thats not too expensive to own. Like some of u mentioned. Why not keep the nsx and get an frs/brz. Yes, financially i can do that, but like i said i dont want a car just for it to sit and look pretty.
I will see if i can find the twin to test drive and then mKe my decision. Thanks again for all the replies. I will keep you all posted. Thanks!

I can relate. I had an MX5 and drove my wife's Prius (or her old Forester) when transporting my boys. The Forester and Prius are fine vehicles... for soul-sucking econoboxes.

So I went for the BRZ as a somewhat practical jack-of-all-trades sports car that my kids can ride in. I considered also keeping the MX5, but the thought of one of them sitting around unused irked me, especially since I don't drive enough miles to warrant having two "fun" vehicles.

It's met or exceeded my expectations in every way: I love this car. That written, my boys are old enough that they can get in/out of the BRZ without my help. ashtray is right: it'd be a PITA with a newboorn. 11 years ago, lifting my son's infant carrier out of my GSR's rear seat sucked, so I got a WRX.

It was a good car, but it took three test drives before I bought one. Its boost and loose-surface-AWD-drifting abilities? Big fun. Its understeer, lag, rubbery shifter, horrible brakes, mediocre steering, and heft? Not so much (and mods could only do so much). I ended up replacing it with an RX8, which like the BRZ had only moderate engine output, but was a blast to drive.

More recent WRXes (and STIs) are improvements over my old bug-eye, but they still don't compare to a proper sports car.

Good luck with whatever you decide.

breaksjm · 02-03-2013, 12:31 PM

I can see where the OP is coming from. While I would love to own an NSX (it was one of my dream cars) - and probably could afford one in very good condition - I'd rather go with the BRZ. There is something about a new, proper, spartan sports car that can't be had nowadays. Also, the idea of having an inexpensive blank slate to tune and modify is just awesome! What are the BRZ/FRS/86 competitors? The MX-5 (dated), Lotus Elise/Exige (not the best daily driver, but similar price for a used one), Porsche Cayman (expensive)? Not many options out there...

Turbowned · 02-03-2013, 12:35 PM

NSX>BRZ. If you can find a way to have both, then do it! If I had $28k cash sitting around, I would be considering a lot of other cars besides the BRZ. Air-cooled 911's would be the first thing I'd be looking at...

I used to think like you did - cars are meant to be driven and not parked, but daily driving them takes its toll over time. It doesn't hurt to pamper the car once in a while. I finally stopped daily driving my MR2 and got a daily beater, and I'm now much happier when I get in the MR2. It makes driving the nice car a "special" occasion.

Quote:

Originally Posted by st162celica

Keep the nsx.

Got me thinking.
Currently 4 nsx's for sale in aust. About 35k miles. Around $50k aud.

How much are the nsx's in the U.S ?

Depends on the year and mileage. A 1991 model with over 50k can be had for the $20-30k USD range. Anything newer and the price goes up significantly; right now there's 9 on eBay ranging from $25-50k.

Enilder · 02-03-2013, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nsxy

Wow! Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. This is such an awesome forum.
I daily my car, because i dont believe in paying for a car and let it sit. These cars are made to driven. This is just my opinion, so please dont take it the wrong way for those of you who garage your cars. The X is fun and a great daily driver, but it's also a hassel (esp. With parking). With a baby on the way and a recently purchased house, i think im at a point where i just need somthing that i dont have to worry about so much(parking, maintenace, roads etc...) about. However, i still want a small, agile, fun to drive car thats not too expensive to own. Like some of u mentioned. Why not keep the nsx and get an frs/brz. Yes, financially i can do that, but like i said i dont want a car just for it to sit and look pretty.
I will see if i can find the twin to test drive and then mKe my decision. Thanks again for all the replies. I will keep you all posted. Thanks!

Test drive and get whichever works better for you. Can't speak for NSX maintenance but at least Porsches from 90s or early 2000s, they will cost an arm and a leg (different story if you are DIY). Seems like it's just a matter of time to find out what your heart desires. GL.

brett_g · 02-03-2013, 11:43 PM

OP.. where in Texas? I'll let you drive my BRZ!

bestwheelbase · 02-04-2013, 12:19 AM

Happened to see an NSX on my way home tonight. There are not very many in town, so I was surprised to see it at 10pm on a cold February evening.

After he turned off the road, I couldn't help but think about what it would be like to own one. They are so beautiful and sleek. But like any 20+ year old car, they have maintenance requirements. And though the marketing pitch said the NSX was the exotic for the everyman... Reliable! Affordable! Driver-friendly! ...the reality is that plenty of owners have reported surprisingly costly repair bills. This is not a car to drop off at your local Honda dealership.

Newer is not always better. But sometimes simpler is better. And I think it could be said that the ownership experience of an FRS / BRZ is simpler than that of an NSX.

@Nsxy I see where you are coming from. Turnkey easy fun with a backseat. You can always get back into an NSX later.

I am going to wait until I can have it as a purely secondary car, then I will get an NSX. And whoa baby that will be a great day.

02-02-2013, 10:01 PM	#46
Xdragonxb0i Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: ex500r Location: AR Posts: 859 Thanks: 13 Thanked 105 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Can't you just test drive that black brz? In your avatar? I don't think you would regret going to the twins, but I think it would be hard to let go of the nsx.

02-02-2013, 10:07 PM	#47
Touge Monster Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 85 AE86 Hatch, 92 SW20 , 13 GT86 Location: San Francisco Posts: 317 Thanks: 149 Thanked 97 Times in 61 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Get a brz keep the nsx. I also own an sw20 mr2 turbo while its no nsx it's still a fun unique and different driving experience. I must admit my frs does pretty much everything better there is something to be said for the midengine layout.

02-02-2013, 11:51 PM	#48
dun3 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: 2013 Ultra Marine Blue FR-S Location: Bay Area Posts: 558 Thanks: 232 Thanked 157 Times in 118 Posts Mentioned: 20 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	2 Red NSX's spotted in Oakland today, within a couple blocks of eachother... It was nuts.. And sooooooo sexy. I say, keep the NSEX, and just buy a BRZ. Garage the NSX until you get an itch to go drive it again after driving around the brz for a while. It'll be worth it.

02-03-2013, 04:05 AM	#49
ashtray As Seen On The Internet Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: 2003 WRX, 2013 BRZ, 442 Location: SoCal Posts: 852 Thanks: 23 Thanked 251 Times in 159 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	I drool over the NSX, though I fear my expectations would be too high. That said, I still consider buying one, but not as my only car. Baby on the way? I'd be getting a WRX hatch instead for the same BRZ coin. A bunch of power and practicality. I have a 4yr old - he climbs in the back of my BRZ fine, but I wouldn't want to use that car for hauling a newborn. (Plus when my son was a newborn, my wife would ride in back with him - can't do that in the BRZ!) I'm in a somewhat unique position of owning multiple cars. You say you didn't like the soft top of the S2K, but they sell hard tops. You could get a Miata (first gen) for cheap that is well kept and has a hard top. You can modify it for cheap money too - quality mods don't cost a fortune on those cars. The BRZ... what to say? It's a great car. It's bigger than my first gen Miata. Ride is great, more power, nicer interior, more comfortable, more room. Handles great - differently than my NA, as the Miata is 500 pounds lighter and smaller, you can just dance around in that car! But the ride is more jarring. The BRZ goes where you think - almost telepathically. You move the steering wheel and the car turns - right where you expect it to. Very easy to throw around as well - like a bigger Miata, with some serious chassis rigidity! Now I love my Miata, but the BRZ does 9 things out of 10 better. Oddly, I enjoy the Miata a little more bc there's more "connection" and "rawness" there. Less isolation. Both cars put a smile on my face. That said, since I have the BRZ, I could sell the Miata and replace it with an NSX (ok, there's a huge price difference but lets look past that for a minute). The NSX would be my sexy exotic. Would I drive it every day? No. But 3-4x per week maybe. Or save it for a treat, or when work is stressful and I need a pick me up. It would just be awesome to park in my garage. But... the BRZ would be more practical, more space, more comfortable. Less sacrifice. Still allow my son to ride with me. If I had both in my garage, I'd drive the NSX once a week just to feel "badazz", but drive the BRZ daily. Now I'll toss back in the WRX/kid comment - bc I own a WRX wagon (Cobb tuned and modified). Holds a ton of stuff, extremely practical. You don't realize how many thing a 6 pound baby needs that comes in large boxes! And it's not just practical, but also quick when the turbo kicks in. And the AWD is jaw dropping if you've never driven AWD in the rain. You're at a T intersection trying to turn on to a main road, and there's 100% traction. The car just moves like there's no water on the road. And when you toss it around in the wet, you get these 4 wheel drifts instead of understeer or oversteer. Can be a lot of fun while being super practical. Not so great on gas though, but better than an SUV. So - what should YOU do? If you're bored with the NSX, sell it. Buy the BRZ. Or better yet, buy a WRX hatch and also a first gen Miata to throw around curves. In either case you're going from "cool exotic car driver" to "general public" - but at least not all the way down to "Camry or Prius owner". I think you'd like the BRZ, but it would never be as cool as the NSX. You could always tell people you used to drive an NSX... (And depending on how you are, when that baby comes, "car coolness" might be the last thing you care about, and "car safety" could be the only thing that matters. Those little ones are so tiny and delicate at that early age. Sure, later on they become indestructible, but the first couple years you just want to cradle them from any harm.)

02-03-2013, 06:39 AM	#50
st162celica Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Drives: 86 GTS Manual - Tornado Grey Location: Sydney - Aust. Posts: 631 Thanks: 269 Thanked 146 Times in 102 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Keep the nsx. Got me thinking. Currently 4 nsx's for sale in aust. About 35k miles. Around $50k aud. How much are the nsx's in the U.S ?

02-03-2013, 12:31 PM	#52
breaksjm Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: 2013 BRZ CBS Limited 6-speed Location: Broomfield, CO Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I can see where the OP is coming from. While I would love to own an NSX (it was one of my dream cars) - and probably could afford one in very good condition - I'd rather go with the BRZ. There is something about a new, proper, spartan sports car that can't be had nowadays. Also, the idea of having an inexpensive blank slate to tune and modify is just awesome! What are the BRZ/FRS/86 competitors? The MX-5 (dated), Lotus Elise/Exige (not the best daily driver, but similar price for a used one), Porsche Cayman (expensive)? Not many options out there...

02-03-2013, 11:43 PM	#55
brett_g Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 13' BRZ Location: Austin Posts: 60 Thanks: 4 Thanked 12 Times in 9 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OP.. where in Texas? I'll let you drive my BRZ!

02-04-2013, 12:19 AM	#56
bestwheelbase Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 1985 P-Type Location: Nashville, TN, USA Posts: 3,710 Thanks: 3,273 Thanked 2,058 Times in 1,098 Posts Mentioned: 50 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Happened to see an NSX on my way home tonight. There are not very many in town, so I was surprised to see it at 10pm on a cold February evening. After he turned off the road, I couldn't help but think about what it would be like to own one. They are so beautiful and sleek. But like any 20+ year old car, they have maintenance requirements. And though the marketing pitch said the NSX was the exotic for the everyman... Reliable! Affordable! Driver-friendly! ...the reality is that plenty of owners have reported surprisingly costly repair bills. This is not a car to drop off at your local Honda dealership. Newer is not always better. But sometimes simpler is better. And I think it could be said that the ownership experience of an FRS / BRZ is simpler than that of an NSX. @Nsxy I see where you are coming from. Turnkey easy fun with a backseat. You can always get back into an NSX later. I am going to wait until I can have it as a purely secondary car, then I will get an NSX. And whoa baby that will be a great day.

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