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12-15-2012, 04:17 PM | #15 |
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If your key battery is dead or dies while you are driving, then the car would shut off. That would be terrible!
I believe that is their reasoning for making it like that. In their defense, with the fob, you can lock the doors while the car is running, so nobody can get in. If you had a tradition keyfob combo, you couldn't do that because the key would still be in the ignition.
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Thanks I was wondering the same thing as I've left the car running and ran into my house or the dry cleaner, etc.
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12-15-2012, 05:47 PM | #18 | |
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This has come up many times on forums for cars with Smart Key and the end result is people get the system explained to them, and everyone lives with it.
Yes it can cause issues sometimes, but it is probably the best way to do it. Jeff
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This has come up many times on forums for cars with Smart Key and the end result is people get the system explained to them, and everyone lives with it.
Yes it can cause issues sometimes, but it is probably the best way to do it. Jeff
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My post assumes that the engine shutting down suddenly and unexpectantly never results in sunshine and unicorns. So yes, on a freeway with sufficient traffic, engine immobilization could cause a bad accident. And yes, sudden engine immobilization in sharp turns around a neighborhood could result in sufficient distraction that someone could children. Car companies have been sued in America for less. So tell me, Mr. I-Can-Makes-Logic, under what circumstances could a manufacturer avoid a lawsuit due to sudden and unexpected engine immobilization of a moving vehicle? No, nothing? |
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It would disable the power in power brakes and it would disable the power in power steering which could easily throw enough confusion into the equation for bad things to happen. So to suggest a car could end up going up and over a sidewalk doesn't seem that far reaching.
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Wait a minute.
How is this any different from a BRZ with a manual key? If the car is running in both cases, then the key is either in the ignition, or the smart key no longer plays a role in stopping the car once it has been started. Either way, your friend still drives your BRZ away into the sunset. |
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Had a customer about 6 years ago with one of these systems when they were less prevalent. One of my guys rode with him to the airport so we could work on the car while he was away, well owner gets out of the car with the key in his pocket and my porter drives the car back to our shop, turns it off and goes to grab the key before getting out, quickly realizing the key is not there. Well the airport is about an hour from our shop, owners already on the plane. By the time we get a hold of him, hes in LA and were in DC. Long story short he had to overnight the key to us and from now on if we drop off a customer we make sure they turn off the car and hand us the keys.
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The funny part is, I actually agree that it's a bad idea for the car to be shut off if it's driven away from the keyfob. But the hyperbolic, sky-is-falling stuff about Toyobaru being successfully sued by the parents of children run over by car thieves because the engine shut off? That I just don't buy as a valid reason for why it works this way (or somehow MUST continue to do so), sorry. Last edited by a.beck; 12-15-2012 at 11:18 PM. |
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Well thank God for the beeping. I get to have the last laugh when they're being annoyed to hell by the beeps
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