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Old 11-17-2012, 06:54 AM   #1
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Willall Racing 86

Does anyone know anymore about this? 190kw and still NA? I'm pretty sure Martin was a user on this site at one stage?

http://www.willallracing.com.au/wr86.htm
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Old 11-17-2012, 06:57 AM   #2
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yep, typo by their web guy.

It also used to read:
0 - 100km/h : 4.3 seconds
0 - 400m : 12.11 seconds

...but that part got fixed

Martin posted on another forum that the car makes >20% more power and is slightly lighter than a factory car
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20% extra would be just over 176kw.. Still not bad. I'd be happy with that.
40kw gain is not going to happen with tune and exhaust. Ever.
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any indications on price?
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Judging by the lack of pricing on the website, no.
Ti exhaust won't be cheap....
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Who knows this might be a 9000rpm engine on e85?
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Given that it has no upgraded engine components in the breakdown list, I doubt it would contain any. it lists tune, exhaust, intake mods. And two different engine oils...
Not stuff to go 9000rpm :P It would need bigger cams to make 9000rpm worthwhile!
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Id guarantee the 190kw is capable from Intake, exhaust and E85 tune
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Id guarantee the 190kw is capable from Intake, exhaust and E85 tune
You reckon?? I know it will gain power from E85, but that seems really high man.
The intake will do shit, it will all be in the tune/fuel/exhaust. And only if they use good headers. Catback and tune, no hope.
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Willall Racing has an excellent reputation with Nissans and specially GTR's. I don't doubt that these guys have dyno tested their Titanium Header back exhaust and intake's with ECU tune and E85. To gain 40kw flywheel from E85 tune, full exhaust and intake I think its possible.
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Willall Racing has an excellent reputation with Nissans and specially GTR's. I don't doubt that these guys have dyno tested their Titanium Header back exhaust and intake's with ECU tune and E85. To gain 40kw flywheel from E85 tune, full exhaust and intake I think its possible.
I am not doubting their credibility at all, nor did I say they are being deliberately misleading. As said way up in the thread there WERE typos on their part....
A natro 2l will NEVER get the kind of gains from an exhaust an tune as a 3.8l twin turbo v6... So their GTR prowess doesn't mean this will be awesome.
A "headerback" system is from the end of the headers back, not a including new set of headers. You CAN NOT make that much power natro with the stock headers and just a headerback and tune. There are guys in the US with those mods, go see how many of them are now making 250hp.....
I would find it hard to believe even with headers. Headers an E85 *maybe*, but still doubtful until there is firm proof.
Firm proof I mean independent test results.
EDIT - The only Exhaust upgrade part list on their website is a rear muffler...... Not even a header back, and certainly no headers
40kw from a muffler and tune?? BS
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When i say Header back system I mean including the Headers
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I am not doubting their credibility at all, nor did I say they are being deliberately misleading. As said way up in the thread there WERE typos on their part....
A natro 2l will NEVER get the kind of gains from an exhaust an tune as a 3.8l twin turbo v6... So their GTR prowess doesn't mean this will be awesome.
A "headerback" system is from the end of the headers back, not a including new set of headers. You CAN NOT make that much power natro with the stock headers and just a headerback and tune. There are guys in the US with those mods, go see how many of them are now making 250hp.....
I would find it hard to believe even with headers. Headers an E85 *maybe*, but still doubtful until there is firm proof.
Firm proof I mean independent test results.
EDIT - The only Exhaust upgrade part list on their website is a rear muffler...... Not even a header back, and certainly no headers
40kw from a muffler and tune?? BS
From Willall Racing's Webpage...........

WR86 PACKAGE BREAKDOWN COMPONENTS

Engine Upgrades:

WR86EX Series Titanium Exhaust Assembly

WR86TU Engine Management recalibration

WR35M2O 0w-40 Engine Oil

WR86AB - Airbox modifications

WR35MO 10w-60 Engine Oil

WR35BR Engine Oil Control System

PRICING (Fitted): TBA $AUD
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The fact that they are running E85 is probably the main reason you are seeing a greater increase in power then you normally would with a full exhaust, CAI and tune.

E85 burns a lot quicker and better then normal 98. Also gives a decent power increase.

FA20 is very restricted from factory due to emission and regulations. So the simple mods may produce more people then people think.
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