Agency Power - Lightweight Pulley

[Kochinopride]

So stupid me I thought I could cut corners removing my pulley without having something to counteract the rotation to loosen the screw... wasted my time pulling apart the intake, but then again - it's not wasted when I get to dissect my car

I bought the Agency Power Pulley and they even gave me the option for what color I wanted! Color?! BLUE?!?!! OK!!!!

Got it today (fast delivery, faster communication!) and I have to wait until I can get my hands on a pulley removal tool... but I have to go to Mexico tomorrow for business but I'll be back to try again on the weekend!!!

Also: Lost a screw bit in the bottom panel... will it fall out eventually while driving or is it going to rattle forever and ever until I get under the car?

[empower-auto]

Cool. I personally like the look of the Perrin one but that's still nice.

[Mr.Jay]

Do you plan to dyno the part?

Curious if it will make the 14 whp that it did on Vivid's dyno

[EJ20]

Originally Posted by Mr.Jay

Do you plan to dyno the part?

Curious if it will make the 14 whp that it did on Vivid's dyno

No way 14 whp on just a pulley ????

[xjohnx]

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12558

[Mr.Jay]

Originally Posted by EJ20

No way 14 whp on just a pulley ????

Sorry I stand corrected

Their baseline was 153whp 125wtq and a Pulley + Fly wheel showed a gain to 180whp 143wtq which is 27whp and 18wtq while adding headers, crossover pipe and full exhaust to that only gained 14whp and 7wtq

I don't buy these numbers or any dyno posted by Vivid so I was curious if OP would dyno the part or confirm to deny these numbers.

[Kochinopride]

You know what... That's a goo idea! I'm going to dyno the car before installing it and then a dyno after... I've only installed a K&N air filter in the stock air intake box - should be very subtle difference with that, so let's see how this turns out!!!

And for everyone to know... if you lose a screw under the engine bay... it WILL remain there - so that's good... I guess... but cause it's rolling around!!!

[Xanatos]

Weight of the pulley is 1.0 lb according to their website:
http://www.agency-power.com/catalog/...vctnbdf3jjkao3

Perrin's crank pulley is 1.2 according to their website:
http://www.perrinperformance.com/brz...z-crank-pulley

But depending on where that weight is located they might perform about the same

0.2 lb difference when you include the weight of the rotating crank + pistons and flywheel is pretty negligible

[Kochinopride]

says 1.0lb, but their postings on it said 1.2lbs on their scale. I figured Perrin and AP are the same, just a matter of $5 give or take...

[Jidonsu]

Originally Posted by Kochinopride

You know what... That's a goo idea! I'm going to dyno the car before installing it and then a dyno after... I've only installed a K&N air filter in the stock air intake box - should be very subtle difference with that, so let's see how this turns out!!!

And for everyone to know... if you lose a screw under the engine bay... it WILL remain there - so that's good... I guess... but cause it's rolling around!!!

What I'm about to say seems obvious, but I'm going to say it anyways. Please make sure you do the baseline and the after install dyno in the same gear. Visconti noticed a 10hp increase in 4th gear vs 3rd gear.

[GirlyScions]

Originally Posted by Kochinopride

Also: Lost a screw bit in the bottom panel... will it fall out eventually while driving or is it going to rattle forever and ever until I get under the car?

So your that guy that leaves screws all over public roads. Thanks because Im the guy that gets em suck in my tires

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by Jidonsu

What I'm about to say seems obvious, but I'm going to say it anyways. Please make sure you do the baseline and the after install dyno in the same gear. Visconti noticed a 10hp increase in 4th gear vs 3rd gear.

My car had a 7 hp increase in 4th over third. I'll also test my pulley when I get my exhaust done.

[Supermassive]

I got the AP pulley in red, installed it and the butt dyno doesnt really feel a difference, I could give a rat's ass about power gain's of less than 10hp because you wont feel it. What i do like is the revs climb and descend alot faster which is very noticeable from stock. I used to hate how the revs took a second or two to stabilize when you got off the throttle, now its alot better, but I think with the inclusion of a (slightly) lighter clutch/flywheel this car will have an easier to modulate throttle response. I'm used to my superbikes where you can rev to redline in about a second from idle and be back at idle almost as fast (with the clutch pulled in of course).

[Skywgn1]

Where did you order it to get the blue? I have only seen Black and Silver.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by Jidonsu

What I'm about to say seems obvious, but I'm going to say it anyways. Please make sure you do the baseline and the after install dyno in the same gear. Visconti noticed a 10hp increase in 4th gear vs 3rd gear.

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

My car had a 7 hp increase in 4th over third. I'll also test my pulley when I get my exhaust done.

^^^ This is why people need to read and learn before just assuming hearsay are facts. There are tons of people here who claimed 3rd gear pulls make more power than 4th gear pulls all the time and on any dyno.

Originally Posted by GirlyScions

So your that guy that leaves screws all over public roads. Thanks because Im the guy that gets em suck in my tires

^^^ I had thought all along you were a girl. I have even replied to you as if you were a girl so my bad for that.

[Kochinopride]

Sorry guys, I've been busy travelin - still have the pulley outside of the car... looking for a shop to swap it for me... I ordered it blue from Agency-Power direct. You can call them, they have way more colors!

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by Kochinopride

Sorry guys, I've been busy travelin - still have the pulley outside of the car... looking for a shop to swap it for me... I ordered it blue from Agency-Power direct. You can call them, they have way more colors!

do you have an AT or MT? if you're a MT, just leave it in 6th gear.

[gmookher]

vendor dyno pull and user dyno pull can differ greatly...

[Kochinopride]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

do you have an AT or MT? if you're a MT, just leave it in 6th gear.

Auto... So it keeps spinning and spinning... Someone got in contact with me that's local. I'm looking to have it installed tomorrow/Friday - not sure about Dynos now... guess I'll go by butt dyno :/

[Kochinopride]

Ok, I wanted to update everyone - although I haven't dyno'd the car, I managed to get the pulley installed with the help of Mike and his team at Prime Motoring in East Rutherford NJ. I gotta admit - I have NEVER seen a shop so full of knowledge, dedication and friendliness like Prime Motoring. This may come out as a marketing ploy, but great work deserves great review! I came in for a pulley install and walked out with my Agency Power pulley installed AND Agency Power Headers he had in the shop! The car's dead zone is gone and the umph is noticeable!!!

Again- Thanks Mike @ Prime Motoring! We gotta finish the rest of the exhaust in a few weeks!

[ngabdala]

I don't trust Agency Power. Especially the craftsmanship and quality. That's just my opinion.

[ttknf]

Originally Posted by ngabdala

I don't trust Agency Power. Especially the craftsmanship and quality. That's just my opinion.

+1

Their history of rebranded cheap, Chinese parts and lack of R&D on actual cars burned that bridge a long time ago.