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Rob_g · 07-20-2012, 01:03 PM

I've always had the RPM dip, but today my FR-S (AT) stalled about 5 times when I was going to wash it at the touchless wash. I drove about half way in and it died. It died 4 more times trying to back out and park. I was going to call roadside assistance, but decided to limp it to the dealership not far away. I turned the A/C off and with the rpm's up it seemed ok driving it there. This is the second time I've had the car in, the first time was for RPM dip which the dealership didn't take seriously as a problem. Now it's stalling with NO CEL (yet) and I said to them I don't want it back until it's fixed because I don't want to be stranded somewhere with this car. I asked my salesman to also escalate this to Scion Canada because the rpm dip is a widespread problem which on my car has led to stalling now. I've also noticed that when the engine is cold, the car seems to slightly 'lurch' between shifts like there's drag in the drivetrain.

At least they gave me a loaner for the time being. My mileage is 2500kms.

Rob

5hairpins · 07-20-2012, 01:11 PM

Oooff, that is rough man. I got the RPM dip a couple of times while breaking her in but not since. Hope it is an easy fix and your ride is back in your hands soon.

Rob_g · 07-20-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 5hairpins

Oooff, that is rough man. I got the RPM dip a couple of times while breaking her in but not since. Hope it is an easy fix and your ride is back in your hands soon.

I had a really bad rpm dip last week when I was parked with the engine running. I thought it was going to stall, but it did not. This is an issue which has slowly got worse on my car and I only wish it had thrown a CEL.

Rob

Mr.Jay · 07-20-2012, 01:46 PM

thats rough

good luck and I hope they do make this known to Scion Canada I am sick of getting told that this is the 1st they have heard of it and need proof

a stalling auto... that must really suck

SUB-FT86 · 07-20-2012, 02:43 PM

I'm surprised auto's can stall. First I ever heard of it.

MVJ1975 · 07-20-2012, 02:49 PM

Ouch! Hope they get that fixed for you fast.

GNS · 07-20-2012, 02:52 PM

I wonder if this happens only to AT vehicles...

Jordo! · 07-20-2012, 02:54 PM

First model year...

It's covered. good luck!

Mishimoto · 07-20-2012, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

First model year...

It's covered. good luck!

It is unfortunate, hopefully they take care of you this time!

Good Luck.

denverizzles · 07-20-2012, 04:13 PM

I've noticed that RPM dip happens in first when you attempt to launch, but have to step on the clutch again because the car in front doesn't know how to step on the gas. I haven't experienced an RPM dip in neutral yet though

jarviz · 07-20-2012, 04:21 PM

I think your car was telling you it didn't want to go into that car wash haha. I heard that even touchless car wash can leave swirls. All depends on how careful the staff is.. Good luck with the fix.

sho220 · 07-20-2012, 05:22 PM

I have an MT and the idle is all over the place...start up at 1400-1600 then it drops down to 800 then up to 2000 and settles back down around 600-800 then dips to 400, shudders a tiny bit then back to 600-800. Stays there for a while then drops down to 400 again and shudders then back to 800 then up to 1000 and then back to 800...etc, etc...very reassuring...and the crickets are getting very restless the more mileage I put on her...at around 1600 miles now...

ST185RC · 07-20-2012, 05:26 PM

My idle sometimes drops to 600 rpm which didn't feel normal. I usually blip the throttle and all is well but it's concerning as I've just past my break in 1k miles (1600 kms)

denkigrve · 07-20-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sho220

I have an MT and the idle is all over the place...start up at 1400-1600 then it drops down to 800 then up to 2000 and settles back down around 600-800 then dips to 400, shudders a tiny bit then back to 600-800. Stays there for a while then drops down to 400 again and shudders then back to 800 then up to 1000 and then back to 800...etc, etc...very reassuring...and the crickets are getting very restless the more mileage I put on her...at around 1600 miles now...

Take video and get it looked at. You have a warranty, don't wait on that.

denkigrve · 07-20-2012, 06:13 PM

I've had my idle dip once or twice, but not like this. This sounds like something else more serious.

The squeaking is already known and is fuel pump related, it's just a noise. They'll replace the pump for you if you take it in for that.

Guy seriously, DONT SIT ON THIS STUFF! Get it fixed under warranty. It'll cost you a heck of a lot more than just time without the car later on.

sho220 · 07-20-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by denkigrve

I've had my idle dip once or twice, but not like this. This sounds like something else more serious.

The squeaking is already known and is fuel pump related, it's just a noise. They'll replace the pump for you if you take it in for that.

Guy seriously, DONT SIT ON THIS STUFF! Get it fixed under warranty. It'll cost you a heck of a lot more than just time without the car later on.

I don't have much confidence that it'll get fixed, yet. I will be taking it in to have it documented though, so when they (Toyota/Subaru) do figure out what causes it, it'll be taken care of. I have a warranty, and I'll get a free loaner when the time comes...no worries!

Rob_g · 07-20-2012, 08:34 PM

Got the car back, nothing the dealership can do right now to fix it until Toyota has a fix. According to the data log, my car stalled because it was using port injection as I tried to accelerate. The tech thinks it's ecu software related and that there is definitely a problem.

If it continues to have issues (which I fully expect) and no fix is made available within a reasonable time frame then I will be requesting a buyback.

Rob

Heero · 07-20-2012, 08:36 PM

WOW - I wonder what stalling will do to your auto tranny. First time I have ever heard of an auto stalling out.

The rough Idle is soo embarrassing. The car literally shudders. I hate when the drop coincides with when your deciding to start driving...

ahausheer · 07-20-2012, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Heero

WOW - I wonder what stalling will do to your auto tranny. First time I have ever heard of an auto stalling out.

The rough Idle is soo embarrassing. The car literally shudders. I hate when the drop coincides with when your deciding to start driving...

Tranny should be fine from the stall. Its like turning your car off in gear.

07-20-2012, 01:03 PM	#1
Rob_g Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2010 4Runner Trail Location: Regina, SK Posts: 202 Thanks: 0 Thanked 56 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Mine started stalling today I've always had the RPM dip, but today my FR-S (AT) stalled about 5 times when I was going to wash it at the touchless wash. I drove about half way in and it died. It died 4 more times trying to back out and park. I was going to call roadside assistance, but decided to limp it to the dealership not far away. I turned the A/C off and with the rpm's up it seemed ok driving it there. This is the second time I've had the car in, the first time was for RPM dip which the dealership didn't take seriously as a problem. Now it's stalling with NO CEL (yet) and I said to them I don't want it back until it's fixed because I don't want to be stranded somewhere with this car. I asked my salesman to also escalate this to Scion Canada because the rpm dip is a widespread problem which on my car has led to stalling now. I've also noticed that when the engine is cold, the car seems to slightly 'lurch' between shifts like there's drag in the drivetrain. At least they gave me a loaner for the time being. My mileage is 2500kms. Rob

07-20-2012, 01:46 PM	#4
Mr.Jay Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Drives: FRS :D Location: Vancouver BC Posts: 2,640 Thanks: 285 Thanked 444 Times in 290 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	thats rough good luck and I hope they do make this known to Scion Canada I am sick of getting told that this is the 1st they have heard of it and need proof a stalling auto... that must really suck __________________ \|Project\|Harlequin 2013 Ultramarine Scion FRS AVOID OPENROAD SCION RICHMOND

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denverizzles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 207 Thanks: 32 Thanked 71 Times in 34 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I've noticed that RPM dip happens in first when you attempt to launch, but have to step on the clutch again because the car in front doesn't know how to step on the gas. I haven't experienced an RPM dip in neutral yet though

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jarviz Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Raven FRS MT Location: Queens, NY Posts: 679 Thanks: 52 Thanked 156 Times in 84 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I think your car was telling you it didn't want to go into that car wash haha. I heard that even touchless car wash can leave swirls. All depends on how careful the staff is.. Good luck with the fix.

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sho220 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: FR-S MT & FJ Cruiser Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 998 Thanks: 224 Thanked 528 Times in 271 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I have an MT and the idle is all over the place...start up at 1400-1600 then it drops down to 800 then up to 2000 and settles back down around 600-800 then dips to 400, shudders a tiny bit then back to 600-800. Stays there for a while then drops down to 400 again and shudders then back to 800 then up to 1000 and then back to 800...etc, etc...very reassuring...and the crickets are getting very restless the more mileage I put on her...at around 1600 miles now...

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ST185RC Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: White Out FR-S Location: Canada Posts: 395 Thanks: 22 Thanked 271 Times in 128 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	My idle sometimes drops to 600 rpm which didn't feel normal. I usually blip the throttle and all is well but it's concerning as I've just past my break in 1k miles (1600 kms)

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Rob_g Senior Member Join Date: May 2012 Drives: 2010 4Runner Trail Location: Regina, SK Posts: 202 Thanks: 0 Thanked 56 Times in 39 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Got the car back, nothing the dealership can do right now to fix it until Toyota has a fix. According to the data log, my car stalled because it was using port injection as I tried to accelerate. The tech thinks it's ecu software related and that there is definitely a problem. If it continues to have issues (which I fully expect) and no fix is made available within a reasonable time frame then I will be requesting a buyback. Rob

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Heero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2-door Location: Canada Posts: 242 Thanks: 59 Thanked 14 Times in 10 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	WOW - I wonder what stalling will do to your auto tranny. First time I have ever heard of an auto stalling out. The rough Idle is soo embarrassing. The car literally shudders. I hate when the drop coincides with when your deciding to start driving...

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