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Old 11-18-2019, 03:38 PM   #63141
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Take off the Mustang bullshit and it's actually not too bad. Should've called it the Fusion or something though. Missed the chance to go with Ford E-xplorer or E-scape lol then none of us would've cared. I know electric cars are the "future" or whatever, but keep the iconic car names out of it.
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The last time they tried to play with the Mustang it didn't even get past the concept stage before the screams resulted in a total (and odd) name change.


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Old 11-18-2019, 03:51 PM   #63143
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Actually, I don't think they do. What the designers need to do is design it so it doesn't look like there used to be one, but they just put a piece of plastic over it when they realized they didn't need it.

It needs to have a personality but it doesn't have to be a grill.
What's funny is the new electric cars BMW has coming out. They're still trying to shove their grills into the front bumpers like in the i4 concept. I know it's just a concept, but jeez lol It's fine on the i3 and i4, but the i4 has that X7 grill. Sad thing is that it would actually look okay without it
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I agree that a cars design does not need a grill. Like an old 911. But, on the 911, there isn't a glaring spot that is left blank where one should go. Like a Telsa model 3 or the new ford Must-UV-thang. So, I think we are saying the same thing.
Yep, we are.
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The last time they tried to play with the Mustang it didn't even get past the concept stage before the screams resulted in a total (and odd) name change.
See, now they could have used the Probe front end as a style guide. It had much more minimal "grill" area. Could have called it the "Electric Probe"....OK maybe not.
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A number of good looking front and rear engine cars have had little or no front grill. How hard can it be?




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A number of good looking front and rear engine cars have had little or no front grill. How hard can it be?



Totally doable. Like Hawk said the problem I see with the Ford is it looks like there was supposed to a grill and they just shoved a panel in the space. Just design it without any pretense of a grill (like your samples) and all is good.

Funny I owned two of your four examples.
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Old 11-18-2019, 05:29 PM   #63149
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Ditto. The struggle...
No kidding. I don't get how people in charge of something can not hold other people accountable on the spot. They have to talk about it, and then maybe they will say something at a later date when the time is right, and the moon is full, and mercury is in retrograde.

And I am already in the dog house. Oh well
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A good director would build something out of nothing. Watch Uma Thurman in Pulp Fiction and My Super Ex Girlfriend. Using or not using a grill is not an issue for a good designer.
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Luckily, concept cars don't look like production cars... Like the 300C for example...

Anyway, is the big cross in the middle a "grill"??? For some reason the bmw reminded me of it...

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BMW grills and the Hitler's mustache. I couldn't like them a bit. But M2 is a fantastic car..

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Man, this one looks lovely. I wonder if @Tcoat had one of these..
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Totally doable. Like Hawk said the problem I see with the Ford is it looks like there was supposed to a grill and they just shoved a panel in the space. Just design it without any pretense of a grill (like your samples) and all is good.
Hey, I think I found a spy photo of the eF250

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