Jack Hollis is out at Scion

[Dimman]

Anyone realize that Mr Hollis was probably creeping this forum since '09 as 'market research'? I would bet that we had a larger effect on the car than Jack did.

But he was smart enough to see us as a resource and took advantage.



His personal hobbies involve church and baseball, btw. Not cars.

[russv]

Originally Posted by RRnold

I never met Jack but he always seem like the old dude at the club trying to be cool n shit.

Perhaps if you met him you would change your mind. It's easy to dis a guy from your computer. You too Dimman- so he has other interests, including his family. Is that a problem for you?

[86fanatic]

Originally Posted by Dimman

His personal hobbies involve church and baseball, btw. Not cars.

If you were working 12 hour days and 80 hour weeks thinking about cars, strategizing about cars, in meetings about cars, presenting things about cars, organizing events involving cars, understanding cars, looking at cars, advertising cars, analyzing cars, and living, breathing, and pooing cars for almost every waking hour - yeah, I bet you would have some other hobbies as well.

[RRnold]

Originally Posted by russv

Perhaps if you met him you would change your mind. It's easy to dis a guy from your computer. You too Dimman- so he has other interests, including his family. Is that a problem for you?

I'm sure he is and you must have missed my <- which usually indicates a joke and/or sarcasm.

Btw, Hollis going from Scion to Toyota is an upgrade.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

If you were working 12 hour days and 80 hour weeks thinking about cars, strategizing about cars, in meetings about cars, presenting things about cars, organizing events involving cars, understanding cars, looking at cars, advertising cars, analyzing cars, and living, breathing, and pooing cars for almost every waking hour - yeah, I bet you would have some other hobbies as well.

I would be absolutely abusing my position in any way possible to race, mod, drive everything, everywhere I could.

But that's just an enthusiast's view. Not a failed pro baseball, marketing guy's view.

Just sayin'...

[86fanatic]

Originally Posted by Dimman

I would be absolutely abusing my position in any way possible to race, mod, drive everything, everywhere I could.

But that's just an enthusiast's view. Not a failed pro baseball, marketing guy's view.

Just sayin'...

Things aren't getting done by you racing, modding, or driving cars. You have projects, goals, people to manage, ideas to present, community organization events to administrate and things to do that are outside of those fun activities.

VP of Scion is not a "pay me to be a car enthusiast" position, it's getting paid to execute a strategy with a multi-million dollar budget to meet sales goals.

You wouldn't have a clue what to do in his shoes for even just one day.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

Things aren't getting done by you racing, modding, or driving cars. You have projects, goals, people to manage, ideas to present, community organization events to administrate and things to do that are outside of those fun activities.

VP of Scion is not a "pay me to be a car enthusiast" position, it's getting paid to execute a strategy with a multi-million dollar budget to meet sales goals.

You wouldn't have a clue what to do in his shoes for even just one day.

Talking about hobbies, bro.

But on the other hand I could probably generate perpetual declining sales, until an enthusiast-led development team gave me a practically guaranteed win.

[Hanzo]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Talking about hobbies, bro.

But on the other hand I could probably generate perpetual declining sales, until an enthusiast-led development team gave me a practically guaranteed win.

If its so easy please go apply for vp of scion and lead them to winning.

[Dimman]

Originally Posted by Hanzo

If its so easy please go apply for vp of scion and lead them to winning.

Where do I send my resume?

[Hanzo]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Where do I send my resume?

If you can't figure that out...

[viorent grip!]

Originally Posted by danthedirt

Goes to show that Jack is about selling a brand and not making a great product. The FR-S was giving to them on a silver platter, and now he is riding that wave of success.

Well... As the VP of Scion, selling the brand is his job. Which he's done, and done apparently well. Making a great product is up to Toyota's concept development, designers, and it's engineers. Not him and his team, they're charged by Toyota to set up the dealers, handle marketing, and sell the cars.

[SuperDave]

Originally Posted by luxmn

he's not an engineer, how else do you expect him to know about the product beside memorization? doing well with interviews requires a different set of skills. he's no steve jobs i give you that but i have talked to the guy in person, and he "gets it", the ideas behind the FRS.

i'm not vouching for the guy or anything but be fair what job don't you have to sell and pretend to be some image a little? Except President. oh wait.

haha haha haha, oh wait, you have rick perry as your governor....