Update on J02 recall failure.

[msaikhan]

Originally Posted by ermax

I just worry that you will drop the pan and find packing in your pickup and then go complain to the dealer and they will claim you voided your warranty by dropping your pan.

I’m curious what a dealer would charge you to drop the pan and check the pickup. At least then they are doing the work and can’t pawn it off on you if they find packing.

BTW, the other member that dropped his pan proactively did end up finding packing in his pickup. You could clear the pickup and possibly consider yourself lucky but there is no telling where else the packing might be stuck.

Quick question for you, they are replacing the short block. What other parts could be damaged by clogged screen? basically what should be replaced after this other than short block. I was thinking cams etc... but not sure what else.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by msaikhan

Quick question for you, they are replacing the short block. What other parts could be damaged by clogged screen? basically what should be replaced after this other than short block. I was thinking cams etc... but not sure what else.

It’s kind of hard to tell how bad the cams are watching the video on my phone. Didn’t look that bad from what I can tell. If they are damaged then most likely the journals on the heads are also damaged. If you can get them to cover them under warranty then go for it. I would also replace the OCV filters while it’s apart. There are 4 of them and they are cheap and drop right in.

Do you have any pictures of the front cam caps? Subaru warns about hydrolocking old packing in one of the bolt holes and busting out the back side leaving shards of aluminum in the head.

[msaikhan]

Originally Posted by ermax

It’s kind of hard to tell how bad the cams are watching the video on my phone. Didn’t look that bad from what I can tell. If they are damaged then most likely the journals on the heads are also damaged. If you can get them to cover them under warranty then go for it. I would also replace the OCV filters while it’s apart. There are 4 of them and they are cheap and drop right in.

Do you have any pictures of the front cam caps? Subaru warns about hydrolocking old packing in one of the bolt holes and busting out the back side leaving shards of aluminum in the head.

no i don't a picture of that, i posted everything i have. The cams didn't have any deep scratches but some sealant on it and like very light black scraches where it rolls. I'm just trying to get them to replace/inspect everything that could've been affected by this.

[ybotspawn]

This is a slippery slope. What happened with the focus rs was they replaced the gasket but didn't fix the cylinder scoring in many cases. I'd push to replace the cams and bearings if possible.

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[Open Loop]

If the screen at the oil pickup were significantly blocked, shouldn't a sensor report a low oil pressure reading to the warning lights in the gauge cluster?

[ermax]

Originally Posted by Open Loop

If the screen at the oil pickup were significantly blocked, shouldn't a sensor report a low oil pressure reading to the warning lights in the gauge cluster?

No, the oil light just means you engine blew. Hahaha. Seriously

[humfrz]

Originally Posted by ermax

No, the oil light just means you engine blew. Hahaha. Seriously

Does the FA20 engine have oil "pressure" - or, is the oil jest slopping around in there?

Maybe they should have stuck with the old oil dippers?

On second thought, that wouldn't have worked - they went and put the engine in sideways -


humfrz

[ybotspawn]

Originally Posted by humfrz

Does the FA20 engine have oil "pressure" - or, is the oil jest slopping around in there?



Maybe they should have stuck with the old oil dippers?



On second thought, that wouldn't have worked - they went and put the engine in sideways -





humfrz

Dating yourself much?

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[humfrz]

Originally Posted by ybotspawn

Dating yourself much?

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maybe?

[msaikhan]

Originally Posted by Open Loop

If the screen at the oil pickup were significantly blocked, shouldn't a sensor report a low oil pressure reading to the warning lights in the gauge cluster?

They actually tested my oil pressure on my car, and said it came up normal.

[ermax]

Originally Posted by msaikhan

They actually tested my oil pressure on my car, and said it came up normal.

Perhaps it did for the short time they tested. Once the screen was full of crap I doubt it was producing enough pressure for redline. Hell they may not have even let it get up to normal temps before calling it a success. This car takes a good 10-15 mins of driving (not just idling) to get up to 180F. When cold it will generate really high numbers even at idle.

[ka-t_240]

If you are worried about engine condition, you could ask to have a machine shop inspect your heads, cams, etc prior to assembly.

[msaikhan]

Originally Posted by ermax

Perhaps it did for the short time they tested. Once the screen was full of crap I doubt it was producing enough pressure for redline. Hell they may not have even let it get up to normal temps before calling it a success. This car takes a good 10-15 mins of driving (not just idling) to get up to 180F. When cold it will generate really high numbers even at idle.

I got a list of parts they are going to be replacing. Let me know if i should push on other parts added to this list.
Thanks,

short block
cam carrier
oil pump integrated with front cover
both intake gears vvt actuator
thermostat

[ybotspawn]

Originally Posted by msaikhan

I got a list of parts they are going to be replacing. Let me know if i should push on other parts added to this list.
Thanks,

short block
cam carrier
oil pump integrated with front cover
both intake gears vvt actuator
thermostat

Just musing here.. but if they're replacing cam carrier wouldn't it stand to reason the camshafts were damaged as well?