finally decided BRZ is the way to go, but got questions.

[beirouty]

i know that in theory the cars are 100% identical.

as i wont be going to track, so i dont really care about how aerodynamic the car is or how much it weight i have to shave off by using a lightweight battery or such things. BUT

i heard that the 0-60 time of the BRZ is higher than the FR-S/86, is that true ?


in real life, what are the differences ? ( not cosmetic differences, im talking about how the car feels, acceleration, handling or anything else.

[ubersoph]

In real life, the difference is the BRZ has a little more grip and weighs FOUR lbs more than the FRS.

That's it. And if you get the car you'd be doing yourself a disservice not tracking the car.

[Shizuma]

I'm sure the difference which was .2 seconds was simply margin of error with different cars, it's seems pretty normal to see up to 1/2 a second difference between two otherwise identical cars.

I've only driven the BRZ, but everything I read said the only real difference is the FR-Z has a slightly stiffer suspension and is a little more prone to break the rear end loose around corners because of it, I think in the same review I read the BRZ was .2 seconds slower to 60 but still beat the FR-S around the track because of the rear end breaking loose more on corners in the FR-S.

[beirouty]

Originally Posted by ubersoph

In real life, the difference is the BRZ has a little more grip and weighs FOUR lbs more than the FRS.

That's it. And if you get the car you'd be doing yourself a disservice not tracking the car.

ill be honest with you, i am afraid to go to the track....

i dont want to die.

[Oriental Life]

Originally Posted by beirouty

ill be honest with you, i am afraid to go to the track....

i dont want to die.

AFAIK, you don't need to in Dubai You've got some pretty good stretches right where you live.

Given access to GT86 and BRZ, both will be practically identical acceleration wise, as others stated.

Those slightly quicker times in BRZ where on a track, with a driver that LIKED BRZ handeling better. That's it. Personal preference and excitement gets you slightly better time (marginal)

[beirouty]

Originally Posted by Oriental Life

AFAIK, you don't need to in Dubai You've got some pretty good stretches right where you live.

Given the access to GT86 and BRZ, both will be practically identical acceleration wise, as others stated.

Those slightly quicker times in BRZ where on a track, with a driver that LIKED BRZ handeling better. That's it. Personal preference and excitement gets you slightly better time (marginal)

thanks for the info

and yes haha weve got some nice streets here.

we also have a nice track, the dubai autodrome. ive been there once and it looked pretty nice.
i might try it but it costs about 200$ for the beginner track.

[NYNOMAD]

Track it - it will be the best $200 you ever spent. And you WILL go back! No cops, kids, dogs, or any other distractions just you and the road!

[Hanzo]

0-60 times varies from magazine to magazine from 1-3 seconds.

[beirouty]

Originally Posted by Hanzo

0-60 times varies from magazine to magazine from 1-3 seconds.

1 second might just be a reasonable difference from magazine to the other but 3 seconds ?

isnt that too much ?

[Hanzo]

Originally Posted by beirouty

1 second might just be a reasonable difference from magazine to the other but 3 seconds ?

isnt that too much ?

I guess more like 2 seconds. 3 is probably automatic.

[beirouty]

hmm probably yes.

[Hanzo]

Motortrend: 6.4 seconds
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...gti_specs.html

R&T: 6.6 seconds
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/co...premium_page_4

Insideline: 7.3 seconds
http://www.insideline.com/subaru/brz...and-video.html

[DeepHunta]

my own opinion, BRZ is a better daily driver or grand tourer car if that's what you're aiming for.

Has more "luxurial" options available. With that said, it is very hard to pick between the two. It will be down to what amenities you want inside "out of the box".

[roguetadhg]

Originally Posted by NYNOMAD

Track it - it will be the best $200 you ever spent. And you WILL go back! No cops, kids, dogs, or any other distractions just you and the road!

What about deer? I submit three for your approval:

1)

Formula One Deer Hunting - YouTube

2)

Suicide Deer Vs Race Car - YouTube

3)

Hyperfest 2012: "Some guy hit a deer" - YouTube

[beirouty]

Originally Posted by roguetadhg

What about deer? I submit three for your approval:

1) Formula One Deer Hunting - YouTube
2) Suicide Deer Vs Race Car - YouTube
3) Hyperfest 2012: "Some guy hit a deer" - YouTube

i dont need to worry about animals here in dubai haha.

[Chewie4299]

I don't know about Dubai but in the UK the Toyota has the additional niceties while the BRZ is more basic. This may lead to their BRZ being 4 lbs lighter.

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[Hanzo]

Originally Posted by Chewie4299

I don't know about Dubai but in the UK the Toyota has the additional niceties while the BRZ is more basic. This may lead to their BRZ being 4 lbs lighter.

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4 lbs lighter is the US spec car, I didn't know he was in Dubai.

[NYNOMAD]

Originally Posted by roguetadhg

What about deer? I submit three for your approval:

1) Formula One Deer Hunting - YouTube
2) Suicide Deer Vs Race Car - YouTube
3) Hyperfest 2012: "Some guy hit a deer" - YouTube

I left Deer out on purpose - seen them on the track a few times!

[StarsGarrador]

Originally Posted by ubersoph

That's it. And if you get the car you'd be doing yourself a disservice not tracking the car.

I don't agree with this. It's one thing for you to feel the need to track, But don't say the ones who don't track it are doing a disservice. Some people have had horrid experiences on track. Some people can't afford to go out and track I'm hoping to go out one day but I'll probabaly have my brz paid off before I do. My best is getting the FR-S after basic but he won't be tracking it at all. He was almost killed on a race track so he is terrified of them. He loves this car and he will not be doing a disservice to it by avoiding the track.

[bimmerboy]

Originally Posted by Hanzo

Motortrend: 6.4 seconds
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...gti_specs.html

R&T: 6.6 seconds
http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/co...premium_page_4

Insideline: 7.3 seconds
http://www.insideline.com/subaru/brz...and-video.html

Insideline doesn't use a rolling-start like most magazines do when testing 0-60 which is why their times are generally slower but more accurate

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Originally Posted by beirouty

i heard that the 0-60 time of the BRZ is higher than the FR-S/86, is that true ?

The difference is negligible and could be due to a number of factors. As others have pointed out, different tests of the FR-S have yielded varying times, and the same thing applies to the BRZ, so it would certainly be the case when comparing the FR-S to the BRZ. But realistically speaking, even the same driver in the same car won't get 100% consistent numbers back-to-back, especially when you're dealing with a car that has a manual transmission and no launch control. Don't worry about it.