Tanabe GF210 Springs for FR-S/BRZ

[poormans_LFA]

Through Tanabe USA's R&D page. Doesn't specify when they will be available. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with these springs? I read a wee bit on NASIOC where what's been said is that they're good quality and won't kill your struts (the one thing I believe most of us thinking about putting springs on are concerned about).









http://tanabe-usa.com/rnd/post/GF210...cion-FR-S.aspx

[Kami Speed]

we sell tanabe and their GF springs are defiantly their best in my opinion. They should have some good specs but truthfully we're waiting for Swift Springs to release their springs

[poormans_LFA]

Originally Posted by Kami Speed

we sell tanabe and their GF springs are defiantly their best in my opinion. They should have some good specs but truthfully we're waiting for Swift Springs to release their springs

Just checked out their page. Their spring design seems to be pretty unique for the industry. How do their sports springs do with stock struts being that they have less coil and what seems more compliance as a result?? From the sound of it they look to be a pretty ideal option for someone like myself looking to install aftermarket lowering springs.

[Kami Speed]

Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

Just checked out their page. Their spring design seems to be pretty unique for the industry. How do their sports springs do with stock struts being that they have less coil and what seems more compliance as a result?? From the sound of it they look to be a pretty ideal option for someone like myself looking to install aftermarket lowering springs.

Swift Springs are one of the few springs I recommend to use with stock struts. They are huge in the 370Z market:
http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...gs-review.html
we've actually sold about 200 370Z spring since they were released two years ago haha, so I'd say a lot of our customers are happy.

I have no exact specs on the new springs for the FR-S but I know they like to maximize performance and durability with the oem struts. We've had a lot of older customers get from 60-80 K from Swift springs on stock struts. We'll definitely keep you guys posted

[poormans_LFA]

do you have anything to say for Tanabe's springs impact on stock strut longevity?

[Juan@aePerformance]

I have them on my rx8, they're good. I prefer Swift.

[poormans_LFA]

what happend to the BRZ dude? I'm seeing FR-S in your "Drives", or is that the shop car?? another vote cast for swift.

[Juan@aePerformance]

the blue FR-S belongs to one of the shop owners. I've decided i'll be getting an FRS rather than doing the brz/frs conversion. Then i'll just swap in the center console. Casey is still on the fence.

[poormans_LFA]

Originally Posted by Juan@aePerformance

the blue FR-S belongs to one of the shop owners. I've decided i'll be getting an FRS rather than doing the brz/frs conversion. Then i'll just swap in the center console. Casey is still on the fence.

i think you made a wise choice.

[Kami Speed]

The Tanabe GF are real good for performance but their NF line is better for strut longevity. I'm not sure if they will be releasing an NF for the FR-S though. I'd rank it like this (in terms of least longevity for oe struts to most):

Tanabe GF210
Swift Springs
Tanabe NF210

this doesn't mean you'll get nothing out of the GF210 haha, just that if I were to compare the 3

[poormans_LFA]

Dug this up....BRZ on NF210 Springs...

[Kami Speed]

Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

Dug this up....BRZ on NF210 Springs...

as you can see its not that huge of a drop, the NF is meant to be a spring drop that maximizes comfort and longevity of oem struts. That usually means its not a huge drop and the spring rates are very conservative.

[poormans_LFA]

looks good though. probably doesn't do much to sharpen handling.

[kinryu]

That is my car on tanabe's website for rd...the gf210 springs give a small drop. Tho they also put on tower bars and sway bars, I feel the car like its on rails. Less body roll compared to before.the ride is similar to stock. Just alil firmer since the spring rates are higher. For daily driving its good and for track I heard gf210 are the best in tanabes.

[Koji_Online]

Did Tamar say the springs will still settle a bit? I was hoping for more of a drop;
As far as Swift, I wonder how that will be

[kinryu]

well the gf210 has a higher spring rate and the lowest drop out of the products they have.
the df210 go the lowest with just a little more of a spring rate.

if you want to go for looks get the df210.
if you like to go for track with good stability get the gf210.

tanabe has great springs.

[Kami Speed]

yes DF for looks and GF for perfromance

[kinryu]

If you ever wondered how gf210 springs looks with 18x8 rims. :]
Tenzo 18x8 37 offset all around with 5mm spacers in the rear.
These wheels look greattt with the drop

[poormans_LFA]

Sweet!!!

[Esoteric]

I like how little of a drop these provide. If your not going to start modding the suspension geometry, and you are keeping the OE dampers these are looking like a very strong choice.
Right now almost everything else out there drops the car by more than an inch. The more you lower the car, the more the roll center geometry changes; this causes the car to have less natural roll resistance. (I suggest looking up "roll center geometry" if you want to learn why this is)

Also to give you guys some info:
Higher rates mean the dampers work harder. Rates can be looked at as a measurement of how much force it takes to compress the spring.
That means that if the swift are the same rate, and the same hight- they should put exactly the same stress on the dampers, no more or less.

Swift makes a good quality wire for their spring, but don't get too wrapped up in "they are magic".

[poormans_LFA]

Originally Posted by Esoteric

I like how little of a drop these provide. If your not going to start modding the suspension geometry, and you are keeping the OE dampers these are looking like a very strong choice.
Right now almost everything else out there drops the car by more than an inch. The more you lower the car, the more the roll center geometry changes; this causes the car to have less natural roll resistance. (I suggest looking up "roll center geometry" if you want to learn why this is)

Also to give you guys some info:
Higher rates mean the dampers work harder. Rates can be looked at as a measurement of how much force it takes to compress the spring.
That means that if the swift are the same rate, and the same hight- they should put exactly the same stress on the dampers, no more or less.

Swift makes a good quality wire for their spring, but don't get too wrapped up in "they are magic".

so what springs do you recommend that would give the best overall combination of performance/value/longevity?

[Esoteric]

Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

so what springs do you recommend that would give the best overall combination of performance/value/longevity?

Thats a good question right?
Right now, these Grip Feeling look like a strong choice for exactly that. Price is very reasonable and quality is high being made in Japan.... Actually made in Japan (not all Japanese brands are).

I have a set of GF210, Eibach ProKit and Hotchkis coming in for customers so I will give feedback!

Keep in mind too, Eibach are the manufacture for a lot of the smaller tuner companies here in the USA.
Different rates, different hight... Same quality... thats a good thing! Price will vary quite a bit though.